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kevin8086 12-22-2010 01:02 PM

thinking of switching to an 06-07 Z06
 
im just not happy with the power and the S/C kits dont really look exciting and the TT kits are a little to much money so i think a new body style Z06 will solve the power problem and they dont have hot oil temps that cut you power and throttle response to a very noticable difference. i love the Z but ther is no torque in this car and for the price you are in used Z06 territory and thats pretty much a supercar. what do u think?

ClemsonWill 12-22-2010 01:06 PM

I looked at an 06 Z06 before I bought the Z. Just make sure you do your research. I know they have issues with the interior (mostly the seat leather quality) and the LS7 had number mechanical issues. Just like every other car the Z06 has it's own set of issues. It's a beast though.

m4a1mustang 12-22-2010 01:10 PM

A later run Z06 should do the trick. As of like 2008 or so they improved the material quality and obviously worked all the kinks out.

kevin8086 12-22-2010 01:15 PM

an 08 may be out of my price range so ill need to have an 06-07 looked over before i get it. i may just change out the seats since i dont really like them at all anyway. so why did you get the Z over the Z06?

m4a1mustang 12-22-2010 01:17 PM

I didn't consider the Z06 when I bought my Z. I looked at the regular C6s but at that time I liked the Z more.

StLRedrider 12-22-2010 01:24 PM

:facepalm:

Cell 12-22-2010 01:27 PM

If i remember correctly, someone on this board mentioned that a Z06 had massive engine failure at a race track because he was consistently over 300 degrees on the oil temps. So, I wouldn't rule out the oil over heating issue.

ClemsonWill 12-22-2010 01:32 PM

The price was right on point with what I wanted to pay but I had to drive 1.5 hours to go get it. Once I got there the Z06 was not in the condition I wanted. It had some front end damage that someone did a half-a$$ job fixing. I kept looking for one for about another 2-3 months. Never found one in the price range and condition I wanted so I started looking at new cars. I almost bought a 2010 GS but my wife liked the Z better so it won. Plus it was $15K cheaper.

FromG2Z 12-22-2010 01:37 PM

First off, let me state that an 06/07 Z06 would blow the doors off my Z. But.... that being said, I was also considering a used Z06 the same time I was looking at my Z. After much deliberation, I determined that though it was faster, I didn't like the interior look and feel (quality). The seats also had the look and feel of typical GM... cracking leather (already), etc. I also didn't like the fact that all vette's pretty much look the same, and it's almost always old men over 50 driving it. I didn't want to be in that category. Again, it all comes down to personal choice, but pure speed and torque wasn't enough to sway me.

StLRedrider 12-22-2010 01:39 PM

talk to forum member frost, he went from a zo6 to the 370 with no regrets at all!!!

shadoquad 12-22-2010 01:45 PM

I didn't consider Z06 trim because I could not afford it (I own a base Z). But when I looked, it was between a 2000 Porsche 911, a 2005 Corvette, and a 2010 Z. After much deliberation, I primarily made my choice because I wanted an all-new car, with all-new tech and 0-yr-old parts, and no possible "thrashed past".

Not saying that one should follow the same thought process. That's simply how I arrived at my decision. I still respect all 3 cars, but I <3 my Zeeeeeeeeeeee.

StLRedrider 12-22-2010 01:50 PM

good luck with what ever decision you make. i myself just dont care for the interior quality of their product. chevy, gm or cadillac it's all crap!

m4a1mustang 12-22-2010 01:52 PM

Well, if you buy from a GM dealership you only need to give them 16.6% of the asking price. You know that whole, "hey look, this $5 billion pays back your $30 billion in full! Thanks, America!" deal.

theDreamer 12-22-2010 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 862320)
Well, if you buy from a GM dealership you only need to give them 16.6% of the asking price. You know that whole, "hey look, this $5 billion pays back your $30 billion in full! Thanks, America!" deal.

:ohsnap1:

kevin8086 12-22-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 862305)
First off, let me state that an 06/07 Z06 would blow the doors off my Z. But.... that being said, I was also considering a used Z06 the same time I was looking at my Z. After much deliberation, I determined that though it was faster, I didn't like the interior look and feel (quality). The seats also had the look and feel of typical GM... cracking leather (already), etc. I also didn't like the fact that all vette's pretty much look the same, and it's almost always old men over 50 driving it. I didn't want to be in that category. Again, it all comes down to personal choice, but pure speed and torque wasn't enough to sway me.


im pretty much with you on this. this is how i feel but i am missing the power. the Z06 does look different then regular vettes. i can tell when i see one from afar. not sure what i want to do yet, im just kicking around the idea

Brazilbro 12-22-2010 02:15 PM

If you're over 50 then go for it! :tup:

kevin8086 12-22-2010 02:24 PM

haha, nope half that age. well about half, im 27

onzedge 12-22-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 862305)
First off, let me state that an 06/07 Z06 would blow the doors off my Z. But.... that being said, I was also considering a used Z06 the same time I was looking at my Z. After much deliberation, I determined that though it was faster, I didn't like the interior look and feel (quality). The seats also had the look and feel of typical GM... cracking leather (already), etc. I also didn't like the fact that all vette's pretty much look the same, and it's almost always old men over 50 driving it. I didn't want to be in that category. Again, it all comes down to personal choice, but pure speed and torque wasn't enough to sway me.

Let's be careful with that "old men over 50" crack! I am one of them.

shadoquad 12-22-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 862419)
Let's be careful with that "old men over 50" crack!

:iagree: I know plenty of Z drivers who are around that age, and they're pretty damn cool.

TypeOne 12-22-2010 03:18 PM

I dislike Corvettes strongly... but I would take an 08+ Z06 if I could afford it.

The C6 has stolen a piece of my heart that I can't get back... IDK what it is.

hmmm...

ChrisSlicks 12-22-2010 03:33 PM

I have several friends that track Z06's, some of them very hard. The stock Z06 cooler is adequate if you don't push the car that hard, but if you beat on it you will need an after-market setup to keep the temps down. The stock brakes are acceptable, although the rotors and pads are crap and should be thrown away for track duty. The stock brake ducts dump air behind the wheel but that's about it, there are kits to replace with proper brake ducts into the hub area. The big problem with the Z06 is if you actually hit anything, the frame is aluminum and the tub is carbon fiber. A friend backed one into the wall on track a few months ago, and what we thought was going to be a few thousand to fix ended up being a write off.

shadoquad 12-22-2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 862504)
I have several friends that track Z06's, some of them very hard. The stock Z06 cooler is adequate if you don't push the car that hard, but if you beat on it you will need an after-market setup to keep the temps down. The stock brakes are acceptable, although the rotors and pads are crap and should be thrown away for track duty.

Sounds similar to what I've heard about tracking a 370Z.

kenchan 12-22-2010 04:13 PM

i suppose if the price is right and it's a reliable car then go for it (?)

in my busy schedule i cant have cars that breakdown. too much of a burden for me.

Flyboy 12-22-2010 04:32 PM

I was WAY up in the air about this same exact issue. I found a used 2010 Z06 for 60K, and was all about it.

But, their are 6 C6 Z06's in my parking lot at work alone. Their is only one White NISMO.

in Town, Vettes, Camaros, and Mustangs are Everywhere. but there is only one white NISMO...

The Z is more Exotic. we will never be faster than a Z06 with a little work done to it, but I wanted a Jap car that would maybe hold some value and be fun to mod.

I think a GTM stg 2 SC will give the Z06 a run for it's money. I am planning to find out.

and If you want to get a bad *** car don't stop at a Z06, go to a CTS-V!! Nuff said!

ChrisSlicks 12-22-2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 862509)
Sounds similar to what I've heard about tracking a 370Z.

Just about any track driven car is going to have the same issues, but there are a lot more parts available for the Corvette than for the 370.

FromG2Z 12-22-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 862419)
Let's be careful with that "old men over 50" crack! I am one of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 862426)
:iagree: I know plenty of Z drivers who are around that age, and they're pretty damn cool.


Nothing wrong with being over 50, and I am sure you guys are cool, never said you're not. I will be that age someday as well. But just saying, I'm not ready for that just yet. No vette for me yet (or ever)... :)

sonic370 12-22-2010 07:12 PM

the z06 is a beast no doubt. over the years i've owned both cars. and both models have their good points and their not so good. just do your homework if you buy used. i'd rather buy one from some older guy if i could less chance
it's been kicked in the xxs........


with that said i do love my 370 but when it comes time to trade i'm going
back to a vette.it's the only 2 seat sports car i would swap for.

ImportConvert 12-22-2010 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 862544)
i suppose if the price is right and it's a reliable car then go for it (?)

in my busy schedule i cant have cars that breakdown. too much of a burden for me.

The only sports car rated more reliable by consumer reports was the Porsche Boxter.
Consumer Reports: Most reliable cars - Sporty car: Porsche Boxster (4) - CNNMoney.com

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 862571)
I was WAY up in the air about this same exact issue. I found a used 2010 Z06 for 60K, and was all about it.

But, their are 6 C6 Z06's in my parking lot at work alone. Their is only one White NISMO.

in Town, Vettes, Camaros, and Mustangs are Everywhere. but there is only one white NISMO...

The Z is more Exotic. we will never be faster than a Z06 with a little work done to it, but I wanted a Jap car that would maybe hold some value and be fun to mod.

I think a GTM stg 2 SC will give the Z06 a run for it's money. I am planning to find out.

and If you want to get a bad *** car don't stop at a Z06, go to a CTS-V!! Nuff said!

The CTS-V has a much nicer interior, but the Z06 is way more of a bad ***. Unless you are talking about some attributes other than handling,braking, and acceleration.

Neither the 370Z or the Z06 are "exotic", and neither is worth crap for holding resale value.

Whatever it takes to run mid 11's@124 or so on a street tire with a half-decent driver is what it will take to give comp to a Z06 in stock form.

As to the age comments I keep seeing, that is just because younger guys usually don't have the patience or the means to save up and buy a Z06 as often as they do cheaper cars like mustangs, camaros, and 350/70's. That's like calling a 1/2 million $$ home lame because only older people have them. No, you have it wrong. Only people who have money have them. I know plenty of younger guys in 'vettes. They just have rich families or good income.

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 863018)
I looked at once and have still, but theres no way to get over the interior...

This is my only snag. I drove a few 370Z's, and played with a few 'vettes. I don't go much for NAV systems, so that doesn't bug me, but the over-all look of the 370Z's interior is much superior in my opinion. Quality, the Z's seats are better, and after that it's a wash for me. In the end, aftermarket seats are cheaper than TT systems and don't void a warranty, so if I ever tire of the seats in a Z06, I am in a much better place than needing a TT system to get my jollies.

RCZ 12-22-2010 08:09 PM

I looked at once and have still, but theres no way to get over the interior...

SoCal 370Z 12-22-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 863018)
I looked at once and have still, but theres no way to get over the interior...

I agree, and so would most Vette enthusiasts. GM still has its head up its a$$ on the Vette's interior.

m4a1mustang 12-23-2010 12:55 AM

Yeah but we all know that given the new cars they are churning out the C7 is going to be a whole different ball game. Whenever that is, of course.

ImportConvert 12-23-2010 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 863372)
Yeah but we all know that given the new cars they are churning out the C7 is going to be a whole different ball game. Whenever that is, of course.

Yep, it will probably have cylinder de-activation, non-defeatable traction aids, and other junk that I would pay not to have.

I wish they could just fix the interior, evolve the handling/driveline performance, and leave the rest of the car alone. Just more stuff to break it seems.

Endgame 12-23-2010 09:36 AM

The Z06 is a beast. I LOVE them. That said, I still like my Z purchase better. The Z is a tighter handler to me/more nimble, I LOVE the looks, and feel I have more fun driving it than the Z06. The Z is more than fast enough for me now. My list for anything else but the Z would be:

1. Used GTR
2. 2010 Z06

Dreezy562 12-23-2010 09:42 AM

If u want a zo6 get a zo6 if u want a Z keep the Z. If u bought the z and now want the zo6 get the zo6. If u got a zo6 and now want a z get the z

ImportConvert 12-23-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreezy562 (Post 863662)
If u want a zo6 get a zo6 if u want a Z keep the Z. If u bought the z and now want the zo6 get the zo6. If u got a zo6 and now want a z get the z

One caveate is that you will have an easier time going from a Z06 to a 370Z, financially. Start big, go small if you don't like it. If you start small, you will be a bit more "stuck" for a while.

shadoquad 12-23-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 863716)
One caveate is that you will have an easier time going from a Z06 to a 370Z, financially. Start big, go small if you don't like it. If you start small, you will be a bit more "stuck" for a while.

This is somewhat true. I mean, I agree, but one has to do their homework up front to see how "big" they can afford to go. The answer may be not to go big or small, but to wait a while so you can go big later.

Wish I'd have waited to purchase. I mean, I absolutely love my Z, but I could have gotten a much better price if I'd have bought it now rather than the end of spring. :rofl2:

m4a1mustang 12-23-2010 10:44 AM

You know it's best not to think about these things. If I never sold my paid off '06 Civic for my Z (and then the Z for the Mustang) I would have saved tens of thousands in depreciation and mods. If you can afford it, do whatever you have to do to make yourself happy and try not to look back at all the money you would have saved if only you weren't a hopeless car guy.

pquaid 12-23-2010 11:17 AM

kev i had the opertunity to race a z06 vs my twin turbo the other day. ive been waiting for a long time ever since i had the tt installed. i was on way to work the other day on a very secluded new highway and had someone(eye witness) following me so i was going 70 when in the distance saw a car approaching very quick prob going 90 or so which most people do on this particular road due to its wide open and never cops. i realize it was a vette and i was going to have fun so when he was about 2 car links behind me i hit it then he rolled down window and wanted to race so we slowed back to 70 and hit it and let off at 120 and i was a good car link ahead starting in fourth gear at 70. then realized it was a z06 and almost couldnt contain myself then he wanted more so we slowed down to 60 and he blew the horn as usual and hit the gas before i did but i was at his back door and in 3rd gear punched it and i hit every gear perfect and at 130 we both let off and i was still at his back door dead even tie. kinda made me sad cause i just beat him right before that. of course he gets me to pull off the road to talk and my buddy who was watching it comes up behind and stops too. this guy was amazed by my car and wanted to know what all i had done to it and said that i beat him all motor and he was "spraying the hell out of it" that last time and thats when i noticed the bottle of NOS in his back window. He said he was trading his 08 ZO6 in for a 370. that day made it all worth it.

Endgame 12-23-2010 02:04 PM

If I already had a Z06 and was not having finance issues, I would not sell the Z06 for a Z...... Just like as I have a Z, I will not get rid of it for a Z06....

ImportConvert 12-23-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 863753)
You know it's best not to think about these things. If I never sold my paid off '06 Civic for my Z (and then the Z for the Mustang) I would have saved tens of thousands in depreciation and mods. If you can afford it, do whatever you have to do to make yourself happy and try not to look back at all the money you would have saved if only you weren't a hopeless car guy.

It's never about money with a sports car. Total luxury item. If you think you are going to ever "look back and regret" loss of value, then you need to stick with simple things like a used camry, etc. Cars are a horrible monetary investment, but I find them to be a very good investment in the fun-factor. I have less fun staring at money than driving a fun car.

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 864020)
If I already had a Z06 and was not having finance issues, I would not sell the Z06 for a Z...... Just like as I have a Z, I will not get rid of it for a Z06....

I think you all may have misunderstood.

Lets say you buy a Z06, well, an '06-'07, not so much, but lets say a newer one. You are going to be upside down in it for a while and if you traded it in on a 370Z, you would add a few K to the price of the Z to account for that. You would STILL be paying much less for the 370 than you previously had been, and the bank might go for it.

Now, lets say you buy a newer Z, and don't like it. Now you want a Z06. A newer one. You are going to tack 5-8K onto the price of a $65K car. Your bank won't bite nearly so fast.

This is all assuming you don't do 1/2 down or something to begin with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pquaid (Post 863778)
kev i had the opertunity to race a z06 vs my twin turbo the other day. ive been waiting for a long time ever since i had the tt installed. i was on way to work the other day on a very secluded new highway and had someone(eye witness) following me so i was going 70 when in the distance saw a car approaching very quick prob going 90 or so which most people do on this particular road due to its wide open and never cops. i realize it was a vette and i was going to have fun so when he was about 2 car links behind me i hit it then he rolled down window and wanted to race so we slowed back to 70 and hit it and let off at 120 and i was a good car link ahead starting in fourth gear at 70. then realized it was a z06 and almost couldnt contain myself then he wanted more so we slowed down to 60 and he blew the horn as usual and hit the gas before i did but i was at his back door and in 3rd gear punched it and i hit every gear perfect and at 130 we both let off and i was still at his back door dead even tie. kinda made me sad cause i just beat him right before that. of course he gets me to pull off the road to talk and my buddy who was watching it comes up behind and stops too. this guy was amazed by my car and wanted to know what all i had done to it and said that i beat him all motor and he was "spraying the hell out of it" that last time and thats when i noticed the bottle of NOS in his back window. He said he was trading his 08 ZO6 in for a 370. that day made it all worth it.

What kind of numbers did your TT kit put down? A Z06 can run a 10-second 1/4 mile at 129mph in bone-stock trim with an absurd driver. Most average guys run mid/high 11's@123-126. With him spraying (unless he was lying), we can assume at least a 125 shot. That would add about 10mph to a trap-speed if he hooked it up, meaning you mashed on a car that traps DEEP into the 130's, from a roll. 'grats! I am curious about the numbers yours runs at the track, though, as I have learned that anything can happen on the street.


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