Originally Posted by StLRedrider (Post 862286)

:facepalm:

Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog (Post 864316)

I've considered this as well but I'm worried about maintenance costs. I'm not real familiar with domestics and I don't really want to buy another car thats been ragged on. I do have my eye on a low mile used 2008 M3. At least with that car I can work on but the cost of the parts come into play. Grr... :D

Originally Posted by pquaid (Post 863778)

kev i had the opertunity to race a z06 vs my twin turbo the other day. ive been waiting for a long time ever since i had the tt installed. i was on way to work the other day on a very secluded new highway and had someone(eye witness) following me so i was going 70 when in the distance saw a car approaching very quick prob going 90 or so which most people do on this particular road due to its wide open and never cops. i realize it was a vette and i was going to have fun so when he was about 2 car links behind me i hit it then he rolled down window and wanted to race so we slowed back to 70 and hit it and let off at 120 and i was a good car link ahead starting in fourth gear at 70. then realized it was a z06 and almost couldnt contain myself then he wanted more so we slowed down to 60 and he blew the horn as usual and hit the gas before i did but i was at his back door and in 3rd gear punched it and i hit every gear perfect and at 130 we both let off and i was still at his back door dead even tie. kinda made me sad cause i just beat him right before that. of course he gets me to pull off the road to talk and my buddy who was watching it comes up behind and stops too. this guy was amazed by my car and wanted to know what all i had done to it and said that i beat him all motor and he was "spraying the hell out of it" that last time and thats when i noticed the bottle of NOS in his back window. He said he was trading his 08 ZO6 in for a 370. that day made it all worth it.

Originally Posted by ThoriumHotdog (Post 864316)

I've considered this as well but I'm worried about maintenance costs. I'm not real familiar with domestics and I don't really want to buy another car thats been ragged on. I do have my eye on a low mile used 2008 M3. At least with that car I can work on but the cost of the parts come into play. Grr... :D

Originally Posted by optiontrader (Post 864594)

After seeing all the B.$. my buddy's 335i puts him thru, a used Bimmer was contemplated by me (along w/P-car) when shopping, but I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger. A straight dino oil change was $135+. He changed it at his cost with 8k miles since he couldn't wait until 15k miles for the "free" one. He was "surprised" it was as black as it was; "it's a new engine!". ;)

Snow chains for the rear tires cost $500. He's going Autozone now, LOL. :icon14:

Originally Posted by kevin8086 (Post 864646)

i would like to know how much power you are putting to the ground as well. i had a TT 350z with a built motor with 525whp and nearly 8k rpm redline. i could still barely keep up with a stock Z06 due to their gearing i think. im not to sure but i had more whp then him and was not but 150-200 lbs more in weight so why would i not pull on him? a TT kit is more then i would like to spend on this car and not have a warranty. the Z06 is going to be as fast if not faster then a TT 370Z and still have a warranty. you add 2k in mods and i dont think a TT 370Z will touch a Z06. but i do love how fun the 370 is to drive and some more power would add to this and i do agree about the **** *** interior of the Vette. maybe i could wait another year or 2 and get a first year model GTR.

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 864890)

Z06's are way simpler and cheaper to maintain and more reliable (per consumer reports) than the M3.

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 864894)

An oil-change on a newer Z06 is around $200. It has almost 11 quarts of oil, or if you buy an older one, around 8, I belive. 8 quarts of synthetic + filter + 1/2 hour labor, $125-200-ish is the going rate.

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 864896)

Because peak horsepower doesn't mean a darn thing. It's power under the curve. That 427 makes a lot of it.

Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 864902)

Sure is... I looked at those. The M3 would have free maintenance however for 4 years.

Originally Posted by kevin8086 (Post 865028)

yup, and thats why i want to drive it every day but i love everything about the Z. i think i will just get a S/C and see if i like it more then but if not ill sell the car and get the Z06

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 864941)

doubling your oil capacity is a great way to keep oil temps down ......hint hint, Nissan :D

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 864896)

Because peak horsepower doesn't mean a darn thing. It's power under the curve. That 427 makes a lot of it.

Originally Posted by chan chee hoe (Post 866027)

well,with a 6.2l-v8,need we say more.?sure it beats a 3.7l-v6.

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 866018)

I was wrong on cost. I over-estimated a bit (because I like expensive oil and filters, apparently these guys just dump mobil 1 in there. Heck, it works and GM warranties it, why not?) Here is a thread about 'vette and Z06 ownership cost:

Where is $1200/Yr in maintenance costs? - Corvette Forum

Originally Posted by JsnMR2 (Post 866384)

I guess I should include that I don't drive the z06 much, which keeps my yearly costs down, but still...

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 866385)

I like the interior of the 370Z more, but the exterior of the 'vette. I would rather have a car with a bit lower class interior that won't look like some hick with a shotgun attacked the front of it in 2 years. Besides, I can't find a Z on a lot without scratches almost through the clear already. So there are your 2 major QC issues with both cars, imo: 370Z has a great interior, but needs a paint-job. The Z06 has awesome paint, but needs better seats. Several 370Z formers have already stated the material/fit are equal in the newer Z06's to the 370Z. I don't quite think so, but then the Z's I drove were apparently freaks as they didn't rattle or have a single sqeak, and I see people on here whining about that all the time. I think part of it is people "see what they expect", basically.

I remember when the 350Z came out and everyone said my WS6 was crap and had a horrible interior. So I rode in a 350Z my friend had. It had scratches all in the plastic door panels, no leather inserts like my WS6, rattled WAY worse with only 1/2 the miles my car had, and in general was just a piece of junk. Yet all I read about online was "my shitty american car is made of plastic and the 350Z is so nice." FFwd a few years and now we have "The 370Z is so nice and the 350Z sucks and blah blah blah". So really, it's just perception. Go drive/look at/sit in both and then form your own conclusion about whether or not it works for you.

Originally Posted by kevin8086 (Post 866170)

yup, a 6.2 is the regular vette, the Z06 is a 7.0L

Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe (Post 866625)

7L-V8,OMG,no wonder the sea level is rising so fast.!,This car will need to pay S$6600.00 in Road Taxes a year if driven in S'pore.

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 866650)

EPA gives the Z06 a rating of 15/24, the regular vette gets 16/26 and the 370Z gets 18/26.

Originally Posted by JsnMR2 (Post 866395)

If you want a z06 you just have to disregard the interior.. The car is fast, looks great, sounds great, grabs attention, is reliable, and does not rape you in insurance. So the interior squeaks a bit.. Oh well..

Just be prepared for crappy traction with the stock goodyears. Esp if it is cold at all outside. I was in 3rd gear doing 65 mph on the freeway and punched it. Next thing I knew I was pointing toward the center divide. The car snapped out of it easily, but still. The car only has a Corsa cat back, high flow catted x-pipe, and an intake. ( about to get some long tubes )

I have a set of 345/30/19 Nitto NT05R's sitting in the garage, waiting to be installed when the weather gets better. Should not have any traction issues then :)

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 866773)

Careful. A friend of mine flipped his C5 3x driving with a DR on the street. I am guessing the NT05 is a DR by the "R" designation? If so, stay away if you EVER think you might be in the rain. If not, go for it.

Well, considering a 370Z will turn on the low-trac light punching it in 2nd or 3rd gear as well, I think a car with @ 175% the power can get away with it without me being too upset, lol.

The interior is dated. I think if you look at the new Cruze (*SP), you will see what GM is capable of and will likely do in the C7.

*PS. Were the exhaust mods worth giving up a 5/100 warranty for, in your opinion?

Originally Posted by SmoothZ (Post 869751)

To the OP, if insurance rates are of no concern to you when paying for the Z06, then go for it. I just think it's stupid expensive for a Vette.

Originally Posted by kevin8086 (Post 870435)

i have seen some people go as low as 35k for an 06 and close to the same price for an 07. some poeple got to deep into it and maybe cannot afford it and sell a little on the low side. i did get my 370Z w/sport 6mt for 26k so it would be a 10k jump in price and payment so i need to make sure the Z06 would be that much more fun to drive.
oh and i DD my 370Z at 100-200 miles a day for work. not sure if the Z06 would be as comfortable.