Nissan Juke, the beginning of the return of Turbocharged Z's?

gorillanismo · 11-09-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Eh, but the Z still competes very well with the GT or Camaro on the curves, right after the new Z comes out the Camaro or GT will beat it slightly (the way of the game).
The Z has always been compared to Porsche first, not the 911s but a cheaper alternative to the Cayman.

yeah, my bad, I refer in drag (vs. domestics), here it needs a bump...
in curves Z is doing a good job...

GZ3 · 11-09-2010, 02:29 PM

^^ shouldnt be that much more! if i remember reading somewhere the LS1 weighed as much as the 350z 3.5 liter vq35de...if they really wanted they could...will they..hm,mmmm

theDreamer · 11-09-2010, 02:32 PM

Well the GT-R using the V8 weights under 3000lbs so I would assume the engine must not be much different in weight.

gorillanismo · 11-09-2010, 02:42 PM

if they can do it (3.0L DI Turbo) weighting 3300 lbs. with 375 bhp...

thats gonna be a rocket!!!!

flashburn · 11-09-2010, 07:26 PM

I'd be at the dealer pre-ordering one the second it's possible if they delivered spec's like that.

Dark_Sub_Rosa · 11-09-2010, 08:24 PM

We'll be lucky if they make another Z at this point, much less a boosted one.

SoCal 370Z · 11-09-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark_Sub_Rosa

We'll be lucky if they make another Z at this point, much less a boosted one.

We'll see more tickled-down features that are already offered in other parts of the world for the succeeding year models. We may be seeing the last of the Z in its form today, and making a competing Z for tomorrow's entails an entirely different Z.

gorillanismo · 11-10-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

We'll see more tickled-down features that are already offered in other parts of the world for the succeeding year models. We may be seeing the last of the Z in its form today, and making a competing Z for tomorrow's entails an entirely different Z.

yeah, it could be like that...

but I cant believe that they will gonna kill the Z, Z is an icon, and is the only true sports car (excluding STi & Evo) that the japanese market are producing...

SoCal 370Z · 11-10-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gorillanismo

yeah, it could be like that...

but I cant believe that they will gonna kill the Z, Z is an icon, and is the only true sports car (excluding STi & Evo) that the japanese market are producing...

I don't believe Nissan will kill it, but the Z could be in for a long hiatus. All we need is an oil embargo to bring Z sales to a halt. Most vehicle manufacturers are retooling for tomorrow's world (about time) and these lost leader vehicles are not a priority. Hey, enjoy your Z while you can...and as long as you can.

370Zsteve · 11-11-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark_Sub_Rosa

We'll be lucky if they make another Z at this point, much less a boosted one.

HKYStormFront · 11-09-2010, 08:52 PM

i'd be more willing to accept the idea of a possible successor to the 240sx/silvia in the form of a 250sx either powered by the QR25 sentra/altima engine or the new 2.5L v6 (is it a VQ? i think it is...) from the G25. the Z will probably get direct injection soon, possibly as a mid generation update. either that or in the next gen ("Z35")

theDreamer · 11-09-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

i'd be more willing to accept the idea of a possible successor to the 240sx/silvia in the form of a 250sx either powered by the QR25 sentra/altima engine or the new 2.5L v6 (is it a VQ? i think it is...) from the G25. the Z will probably get direct injection soon, possibly as a mid generation update. either that or in the next gen ("Z35")

A new gen silvia has been rumored for awhile and I think this Juke is the test crowd for it all.
4 banger DI TT, in an vehicle that weights 3,000 pounds. Now all Nissan has to do is either up it to a 1.8 or 2.0L engine and they are golden. Even if they end up keeping it around 3,000 pounds (which I doubt), it will still be a great RWD car.

gorillanismo · 11-10-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

A new gen silvia has been rumored for awhile and I think this Juke is the test crowd for it all.
4 banger DI TT, in an vehicle that weights 3,000 pounds. Now all Nissan has to do is either up it to a 1.8 or 2.0L engine and they are golden. Even if they end up keeping it around 3,000 pounds (which I doubt), it will still be a great RWD car.

I think that the juke is an experiment of a few new projects, a Turbo Sentra that can compete with MazdaSpeed3, Caliber SRT4, GTI Turbo, (aparently Ford plans to take out a Fiesta Turbo)... other project are the Z and the third is the Silvia...

370zproject · 11-10-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by gorillanismo

I think that the juke is an experiment of a few new projects, a Turbo Sentra that can compete with MazdaSpeed3, Caliber SRT4, GTI Turbo, (aparently Ford plans to take out a Fiesta Turbo)... other project are the Z and the third is the Silvia...

mm silvia

Dark_Sub_Rosa · 11-10-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

i'd be more willing to accept the idea of a possible successor to the 240sx/silvia in the form of a 250sx either powered by the QR25 sentra/altima engine or the new 2.5L v6 (is it a VQ? i think it is...) from the G25. the Z will probably get direct injection soon, possibly as a mid generation update. either that or in the next gen ("Z35")

The Z isn't getting an update with DI anywhere remotely soon. That would be a huge overhaul that Nissan isn't going to put the money into. The days of the manual are slowly dying and along with that are the pure sports cars. It's shitty and no car fanatic wants to accept it but vehicles like the Z are a dying breed. I have a ton of friends at Corporate headquarters and it's scary to hear how lucky we are there is even a Z to begin with right now.

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