Official '11 Mustang GT vs 370z Thread

[Red370]

Originally Posted by Econ

Will a Z with your typical bolt ons (exhaust, intakes) surpass a new 5.0 in the straights?

A Twin Turbo'd Z will probably walk on it slowly in the top end, but i'm sitting comfortably at 417whp with less than a grand in mods. These things are firmly into the 11's with basic bolt-ons, its crazy how freakishly beast the new 5.0 engine is.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by Red370

A Twin Turbo'd Z will probably walk on it slowly in the top end, but i'm sitting comfortably at 417whp with less than a grand in mods. These things are firmly into the 11's with basic bolt-ons, its crazy how freakishly beast the new 5.0 engine is.

Yeah, the Mustang's definitely faster in the straights. The only way a Z is winning with just bolt-ons is probably a combination of driver error and lack of traction in the Mustang (at least that's what I assume).

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

Yeah, the Mustang's definitely faster in the straights. The only way a Z is winning with just bolt-ons is probably a combination of driver error and lack of traction in the Mustang (at least that's what I assume).

Or a Starbucks pit stop.

But you're right... traction is very limited for us from a dig. The non Brembo cars have 245 width Pirelli all-seasons that they can roast all the way through 4th gear. The Brembo cars like mine run a Pirelli PZero summer but it's only 255 wide all around. We've got more power than the Z but less contact patch, so a run from a dig is really going to depend on if the driver can hook up.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Or a Starbucks pit stop.

You know how I race. It's why I'm undefeated against Bugattis.

[GZ3]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Or a Starbucks pit stop.

But you're right... traction is very limited for us from a dig. The non Brembo cars have 245 width Pirelli all-seasons that they can roast all the way through 4th gear. The Brembo cars like mine run a Pirelli PZero summer but it's only 255 wide all around. We've got more power than the Z but less contact patch, so a run from a dig is really going to depend on if the driver can hook up.

i got 235!? that was the first thing to go on my car!! it was really funny cause i thought the car running really sluggish, maybe something wrong with it...i was like ohhh helll no not this again! But i decided to turn off advancetrac and whole shiittt i was slidding all over the damn road and when it caught, holy hell! advancetrac was keeping me on the ground the whole time lol

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by GZ3

i got 235!? that was the first thing to go on my car!! it was really funny cause i thought the car running really sluggish, maybe something wrong with it...i was like ohhh helll no not this again! But i decided to turn off advancetrac and whole shiittt i was slidding all over the damn road and when it caught, holy hell! advancetrac was keeping me on the ground the whole time lol

AdvanceTrac is great. It's a really smart system. I love Sport Mode. 90% of the time I am driving the car it's in sport mode. The only time I ever shut traction and stability control off is if I'm at the track.

And yeah, I forgot some of the Base model cars come with only 235s. Depends on which wheels you get.

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by Red370

A Twin Turbo'd Z will probably walk on it slowly in the top end, but i'm sitting comfortably at 417whp with less than a grand in mods. These things are firmly into the 11's with basic bolt-ons, its crazy how freakishly beast the new 5.0 engine is.

You're going to need FI on the Z. I think even some of the lower whp FI kits on the Z (some of the GTM SC kits) wouldn't be able to pull a bolt-on 5.0, but the TT or Stillen SC guys should be able to do it up top, but I think it would be a fairly close race at least initially.

With my mods I can pull on a C6 Coupe which is a pretty fast car in stock form. Stock I could walk a C5, which my Z could just about hold even with.

[Red370]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

You're going to need FI on the Z. I think even some of the lower whp FI kits on the Z (some of the GTM SC kits) wouldn't be able to pull a bolt-on 5.0, but the TT or Stillen SC guys should be able to do it up top, but I think it would be a fairly close race at least initially.

With my mods I can pull on a C6 Coupe which is a pretty fast car in stock form. Stock I could walk a C5, which my Z could just about hold even with.

A co-worker of mine with a new STI tried to get cheeky with me on an off ramp the other day, we had a spirited run up to 80 (which is the speed limit mind you), he drove away upset

[theDreamer]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

You're going to need FI on the Z. I think even some of the lower whp FI kits on the Z (some of the GTM SC kits) wouldn't be able to pull a bolt-on 5.0, but the TT or Stillen SC guys should be able to do it up top, but I think it would be a fairly close race at least initially.

With my mods I can pull on a C6 Coupe which is a pretty fast car in stock form. Stock I could walk a C5, which my Z could just about hold even with.

I can pull a C6 vette and barely lost to a modded one.
Any boosted 370z will keep up with a basic bolt on 5.0, but once you get into what is a 'bolt on' anything is game.

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by theDreamer

I can pull a C6 vette and barely lost to a modded one.
Any boosted 370z will keep up with a basic bolt on 5.0, but once you get into what is a 'bolt on' anything is game.

Let me tell you what I pull thinking about your car.

neato!!!

[esfourteen]

Originally Posted by Red370

A Twin Turbo'd Z will probably walk on it slowly in the top end, but i'm sitting comfortably at 417whp with less than a grand in mods. These things are firmly into the 11's with basic bolt-ons, its crazy how freakishly beast the new 5.0 engine is.

I really like the new mustang, and the 5.0 engine is amazing, but lets be realistic here... TT Z's are making 500whp/400tq and weigh 300lbs less than a mustang, "walk on it slowly in the top end" is kind of an understatement. And yes, full bolt ons and a tune a Z can hang with a STOCK 5.0 gt.

[Marcus Ryan]

Originally Posted by esfourteen

I really like the new mustang, and the 5.0 engine is amazing, but lets be realistic here... TT Z's are making 500whp/400tq and weigh 300lbs less than a mustang, "walk on it slowly in the top end" is kind of an understatement. And yes, full bolt ons and a tune a Z can hang with a STOCK 5.0 gt.

I had full bolt ons on the Z (no tune though), and there isn't a chance in hell it hangs with the Stang.

[Red370]

Originally Posted by esfourteen

I really like the new mustang, and the 5.0 engine is amazing, but lets be realistic here... TT Z's are making 500whp/400tq and weigh 300lbs less than a mustang, "walk on it slowly in the top end" is kind of an understatement. And yes, full bolt ons and a tune a Z can hang with a STOCK 5.0 gt.

how many TT owners are running enough boost to make 500whp and 400wtq? Most I've seen are running the safe range of about 450 and 350.

I had a fully bolted Z (tune included) bub, no, I assure you, it could not come close to hanging with my Stang in stock form.

[Marcus Ryan]

Originally Posted by Red370

how many TT owners are running enough boost to make 500whp and 400wtq? Most I've seen are running the safe range of about 450 and 350.

I had a fully bolted Z bub, no, I assure you, it could not come close to hanging with my Stang in stock form.

True story.