Official '11 Mustang GT vs 370z Thread

[wishihadnav]

^^haha!

[theDreamer]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Rag tests are worthless.

Honestly, Dreamer really said it best: get whatever makes you happy and don't worry about anything else.

What....you agree with me on something.

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by theDreamer

What....you agree with me on something.

Dude, I agree with you on 99% of things. Most recently on our new bed sheets.

[Z eliminator]

I will not need the SC to beat on one at the track 12.8009 with N/A bolt on's.
When i get my stage 2 GTM SC, 11.7's should be close. Why pick on a Mustang when i will be a stock GTR's worst nightmare at the drag strip.

[ProfessorDave]

Wait...Ford makes a Mustang?


I'll wait for the retro Pinto, so I can race the retro Vega FTW!

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by Z eliminator

I will not need the SC to beat on one at the track 12.8009 with N/A bolt on's.
When i get my stage 2 GTM SC, 11.7's should be close. Why pick on a Mustang when i will be a stock GTR's worst nightmare at the drag strip.

So what will you do when you meet a N/A Bolt-on 10 second Mustang?

Seriously dude, you always do this. Your car is modded and you try to compare it to STOCK cars.

You're not going to be a GT-R's worst nightmare, either. How many GTRs that go to the track are stock? I was just watching one run 10.07 @ 140 on street tires last Friday.

Not trying to discount what you've done with your Z, but let's be realistic. You can't come in and say, "well, when I'm modded I'll totally beat up on those stock Mustangs/GTRs/etc!"

[wolf370z]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

So what will you do when you meet a N/A Bolt-on 10 second Mustang?

Seriously dude, you always do this. Your car is modded and you try to compare it to STOCK cars.

You're not going to be a GT-R's worst nightmare, either. How many GTRs that go to the track are stock? I was just watching one run 10.07 @ 140 on street tires last Friday.

Not trying to discount what you've done with your Z, but let's be realistic. You can't come in and say, "well, when I'm modded I'll totally beat up on those stock Mustangs/GTRs/etc!"

Yeah, M4A1 I agree with almost everything you say, you even had a red 370z didn't you? Maybe you're my alternate self with an internet connection that lets you talk into the multiverses...

Anyways, I was very close to going your route, except the $5-6k on top of my 370z for an '11 Mustang GT is NOT worth it. If you guys were really concerned about best performance you should have bought a c5z06 for marginally less than the Z or GT.

But hey, it's whatever you love and sometimes I see a 5.0 and think about what could have been and realize I'm a classic muscle car guy at heart and I already got one of those so a sports car just makes more sense. Alright, sorry for talking your ears off. I would like to note I find it funny that three of our active members got '11 5.0's and are still posting. Glad to see you guys aren't stupidly brand loyal like most mustang guys are.

I'm just waiting for the day I can pick up a c6z06 for $30k. That'll be the day!

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by wolf370z

Maybe you're my alternate self with an internet connection that lets you talk into the multiverses...

Originally Posted by wolf370z

I would like to note I find it funny that three of our active members got '11 5.0's and are still posting. Glad to see you guys aren't stupidly brand loyal like most mustang guys are.

I'm a car guy first and foremost. I love Z cars and this forum is the best I've ever been on, so I've got no reason to leave. I've said it a few times before, but, "once a Z owner, always a Z owner."

[Lug]

Originally Posted by Tjai370Z

the 0-60 on that mustang looks a bit slow, should be more of the low 4 second range

C&D's test mustang didn't have the 3.73 rear end. They literally got the worst numbers for the Mustang I've ever seen and tied for the best for the 370Z. C&D must love them some ferin cars.

[ImportConvert]

Originally Posted by Z eliminator

I will not need the SC to beat on one at the track 12.8009 with N/A bolt on's.
When i get my stage 2 GTM SC, 11.7's should be close. Why pick on a Mustang when i will be a stock GTR's worst nightmare at the drag strip.

Because mustangs run better than 12.8's stock. They are already in the 8's with a lot of mods. Any 370's in the 8's yet? You just won't win this one in the speed department, stock/stock, or mod/mod.

[wilsonp]

Lot's of options can make testing a problem.

How much will the 3.73 lost at the top end?

[m4a1mustang]

You don't really lose anything on the top end as far as top speed goes with the 3.73.

The problem you encounter with the Mustang is traction. In theory the 3.73 will be the quickest but it's not always the case in practice. It's VERY hard to get this car to hook up on a street tire, so sometimes a 3.55 or even 3.31 might run quicker than a 3.31 car on a street radial. But with slicks or drag radials the 3.73 should really shine. Especially if you run a tune that bumps the limiter from 7,000 to 7,600 RPM... the thing will really scream.

So far I'm at 12.87 @ 110 on a 2.01 60'. I've put together some other runs with sub 2.0s 60's so I'm certain I could run 12.70s or better on a "perfect" run, but I'm going to pick up some drag radials here shortly. Throw in a CAI, tune, and X-pipe and I should be in the 11s.

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Because mustangs run better than 12.8's stock. They are already in the 8's with a lot of mods. Any 370's in the 8's yet? You just won't win this one in the speed department, stock/stock, or mod/mod.

Throw in the fact that all a GT-R owner needs to do is get a tune and poof, he's walking away into the sunset.

And aren't there a couple bolt-on 370s running quicker than 12.80 already?

[jaedub]

I know my comment sounds sorta ignorant but.....dont american cars have alot of problems? Japanese cars are so reliable, Im pretty sure our Zs can hit 100k without any problems. But American cars, as well as european cars, tends to give so much problem for the long term use. And I personally think American cars doesnt look as nice as other cars. This is why I wouldnt want to own a American made car. And again, this is my personal opinon and based on my experience. No offence to any American car owners

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by jaedub

I know my comment sounds sorta ignorant but.....dont american cars have alot of problems? Japanese cars are so reliable, Im pretty sure our Zs can hit 100k without any problems. But American cars, as well as european cars, tends to give so much problem for the long term use. And I personally think American cars doesnt look as nice as other cars. This is why I wouldnt want to own a American made car. And again, this is my personal opinon and based on my experience. No offence to any American car owners

The short answer is no.

The long answer...

People always say they break down all the time but that simply isn't the case. Even the old ones. What really doomed the American car company's image was that awful period from the late 70s / early 80s to the mid/late 90s where they used to have the crappiest interiors you could ever imagine. Mechanically, though, they have always been very sound, especially if you maintain them properly.

Nowadays there is no difference in quality or reliability across really all of the mainstream car makes. Manufacturing tolerances are so close these days you can expect just about any car to live a long and happy life so long as you keep up with regular maintenance.

These days it's all hyperbole. A Ford is no more or less reliable than a Nissan which is no more or less reliable than a Mercedes which is no more or less reliable than a Honda... etc. Now some might be more expensive to repair, but that's another story.