Car and Driver tests $30K-$60K cars in VIR Lightning Lap.

onethreefive · 11-14-2008, 01:21 AM

LL2 Class $30k - $60k
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Corvette Z51 - 436hp - 3273lbs - 3:01.2

CTS-V - 556hp - 4269lbs - 3:04:0

M3 - 414hp - 3625lbs - 3:05.6

C63 AMG - 451hp - 3989lbs - 3:06.5

350z Track - 300hp - 3200lbs - 3:12.5*

Evo MR - 291hp - 3650lbs - 3:13.3

135i - 300hp - 3392lbs - 3:13.7

IS-F - 416hp - 3810lbs - 3:14.0

S5 - 354hp - 3910lbs - 3:14.6

S2000 CR - 237hp - 2827lbs - 3:15.0

Ch Srt8 - 425hp - 4146lbs - 3:16.3

Elise SC - 218hp - 2029lbs - 3:16.6

G37S - 330hp - 3723lbs - 3:17.5

STi - 305hp - 3388lbs - 3:19.0

R32 - 250hp - 3555lbs - 3:21.8

Mugen Si - 197hp - 2940lbs - 3:24.8

*C&D 2006 LL1

onethreefive · 11-14-2008, 01:25 AM

GTR was in LL3 class. $60-$120k

135i LL2 class $30-$60k

onethreefive · 11-14-2008, 03:29 AM

AK370Z · 11-14-2008, 06:39 PM

Cool video. So the Bmw has 300 HP with 3390 lbs. Can you imagine 332 HP with 3200 lbs car?

370z =

onethreefive · 11-15-2008, 01:37 AM

The 370z should def have a better time than the 135, the suspension on the bmw is a little bit on the soft side.

alefcole · 11-15-2008, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z

Cool video. So the Bmw has 300 HP with 3390 lbs. Can you imagine 332 HP with 3200 lbs car?

370z =

Not everything in a car is the amount of HP and how light it is. The driver, wheels, torque, handling, etc, etc counts also. I am impressed with those results. That 135 is a MONSTER. M3 performance at 1/2 the price.........I think it beat the STI, Elise, S2000, etc etc........ Wasn't the S2000 and elise your favorite cars??, Please add the 135 to your personal list. I am curious to wait for the 370z OVERALL performance, not just numbers......

alefcole · 11-15-2008, 02:03 PM

Plus if we look for under 40K performance we are left with the lancer and the 135. Personally I will choose the 135 anyday

AK370Z · 11-15-2008, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alefcole

Not everything in a car is the amount of HP and how light it is. The driver, wheels, torque, handling, etc, etc counts also. I am impressed with those results. That 135 is a MONSTER. M3 performance at 1/2 the price.........I think it beat the STI, Elise, S2000, etc etc........ Wasn't the S2000 and elise your favorite cars??, Please add the 135 to your personal list. I am curious to wait for the 370z OVERALL performance, not just numbers......

Agreed. Good post, Alef. I def agree with you on that line. It is a freakin' beast. You should check out this thread: 425 fl/lbs of torque????

Can you imagine things you can do with 425 ft/lbs of torque?

BMW Releases Pricing for U.S. Diesels

CrownR426 · 11-15-2008, 03:05 PM

Why isn't the 350z there?
Is it because it starts off at 28k?

onethreefive · 11-16-2008, 05:44 PM

Not sure why C&D didn't test the 2008 350z this year. Back in '06 they did though.

Quote:

LL1: Nissan 350Z Track

The Lightning Lap, 2006

In the LL1 class, only the Nissan 350Z could beat that time, with a best lap of 3:12.5. The 350Z was as gutsy as the Evo, and its thrust was of the naturally aspirated variety with, naturally, no turbo lag. That made it possible to feed in power much more precisely — and earlier — when exiting corners. The Z-car's handling was not quite as buttoned down as the Evo's, and the Nissan demanded a more precise driving style. But its smooth power delivery worked well with fine handling balance to allow genuine power oversteer when necessary to tighten the car's line. Long live the king of LL1!

alefcole · 11-27-2008, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onethreefive

LL2 Class $30k - $60k
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Corvette Z51 - 436hp - 3273lbs - 3:01.2

CTS-V - 556hp - 4269lbs - 3:04:0

M3 - 414hp - 3625lbs - 3:05.6

C63 AMG - 451hp - 3989lbs - 3:06.5

350z Track - 300hp - 3200lbs - 3:12.5*

Evo MR - 291hp - 3650lbs - 3:13.3

135i - 300hp - 3392lbs - 3:13.7

IS-F - 416hp - 3810lbs - 3:14.0

S5 - 354hp - 3910lbs - 3:14.6

S2000 CR - 237hp - 2827lbs - 3:15.0

Ch Srt8 - 425hp - 4146lbs - 3:16.3

Elise SC - 218hp - 2029lbs - 3:16.6

G37S - 330hp - 3723lbs - 3:17.5

STi - 305hp - 3388lbs - 3:19.0

R32 - 250hp - 3555lbs - 3:21.8

Mugen Si - 197hp - 2940lbs - 3:24.8

*C&D 2006 LL1

So basically the decision is made between the Evo, the 135 and the new 370z, but if you need the extra 2 seats in the back your decision is made after this video please enjoy............

RacingFilm.com - BMW 135i Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X Motor Trend

SnakeBitten · 12-13-2008, 06:10 AM

Cant wait for next years Lightening Lap with the 370z and Im sure Cayman S

shumby · 12-13-2008, 04:53 PM

My G37 did not do too bad

xDIEGOx · 12-13-2008, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnakeBitten

Cant wait for next years Lightening Lap with the 370z and Im sure Cayman S

+1..

shumby · 12-13-2008, 05:23 PM

+2..

11-14-2008, 01:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
onethreefive Retired CIO Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: ______ Posts: 1,366 Drives: _ Rep Power: 259	Car and Driver tests $30K-$60K cars in VIR Lightning Lap. LL2 Class $30k - $60k ------------------------------------ Corvette Z51 - 436hp - 3273lbs - 3:01.2 CTS-V - 556hp - 4269lbs - 3:04:0 M3 - 414hp - 3625lbs - 3:05.6 C63 AMG - 451hp - 3989lbs - 3:06.5 350z Track - 300hp - 3200lbs - 3:12.5* Evo MR - 291hp - 3650lbs - 3:13.3 135i - 300hp - 3392lbs - 3:13.7 IS-F - 416hp - 3810lbs - 3:14.0 S5 - 354hp - 3910lbs - 3:14.6 S2000 CR - 237hp - 2827lbs - 3:15.0 Ch Srt8 - 425hp - 4146lbs - 3:16.3 Elise SC - 218hp - 2029lbs - 3:16.6 G37S - 330hp - 3723lbs - 3:17.5 STi - 305hp - 3388lbs - 3:19.0 R32 - 250hp - 3555lbs - 3:21.8 Mugen Si - 197hp - 2940lbs - 3:24.8 C&D 2006 LL1 __________________ resident lurker extraordinaire Support Our Forum* Become a Premium Member Click HERE Last edited by onethreefive; 11-16-2008 at 05:55 PM.

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11-14-2008, 06:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
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11-15-2008, 01:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
onethreefive Retired CIO Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: ______ Posts: 1,366 Drives: _ Rep Power: 259	The 370z should def have a better time than the 135, the suspension on the bmw is a little bit on the soft side. __________________ resident lurker extraordinaire Support Our Forum Become a Premium Member Click HERE

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alefcole Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SJ Posts: 709 Drives: 2011 Black ZCP E92M3 Rep Power: 18	Plus if we look for under 40K performance we are left with the lancer and the 135. Personally I will choose the 135 anyday

11-15-2008, 03:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
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12-13-2008, 06:10 AM	#12 (permalink)
SnakeBitten Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Midwood Posts: 232 Drives: 05 DBZ M6 Rep Power: 16	Cant wait for next years Lightening Lap with the 370z and Im sure Cayman S __________________

12-13-2008, 04:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 236	My G37 did not do too bad __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

12-13-2008, 05:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 236	+2.. __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

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