Test drove a 5.0 Today

Red370 · 09-12-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

What if they have a back seat delete option....wouldn't that blow your mind?!?!?!?!?!?

thats probably the only thing I dont miss about my Z, having that back seat was actually one of the things that swayed me towards the mustang, I'm in the military so I usually have to carry a shitload of equipment, I kinda needed it, but that Boss back seat delete is sick.

chewonyou · 09-13-2010, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

thats probably the only thing I dont miss about my Z, having that back seat was actually one of the things that swayed me towards the mustang, I'm in the military so I usually have to carry a shitload of equipment, I kinda needed it, but that Boss back seat delete is sick.

+1 here. I'm in the military as well and when you go away for training like IOBC or any other schools you probably will be carrying at least 2 duffel bags if not more of gear. That simply can't fit in a 350Z or a 370Z. Knowing that the 5.0's performance in every single category is better than the 370Z and less expensive makes the 5.0 a no-brainer. There's really nothing besides "feel" that the 370z "may" do better than the 5.0 while at the same time being more expensive when similarly optioned out.

m4a1mustang · 09-13-2010, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by chewonyou

+1 here. I'm in the military as well and when you go away for training like IOBC or any other schools you probably will be carrying at least 2 duffel bags if not more of gear. That simply can't fit in a 350Z or a 370Z. Knowing that the 5.0's performance in every single category is better than the 370Z and less expensive makes the 5.0 a no-brainer.

Not every single category, the Z is still the better handling car of the two (though only by a small margin, and the Brembo Mustang beats the pants off the Akebonos) and one could argue that the Z is the better looking of the two (I like them both for different reasons).

But yes, a back seat is great. I like the ability to carry more than one person.

theDreamer · 09-12-2010, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

I tell you what though, i'll be a pissed off SOB if they come out with a direct injected 5.0 for the 12' GT that puts out 440hp and 410 ft/lbs, that would make me go insane.

Be prepared to be mad then, this is the coyote engine in the 2011 Mustang, all setup for DI already.

NyCSnEaK · 09-12-2010, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Be prepared to be mad then, this is the coyote engine in the 2011 Mustang, all setup for DI already.

Yeah I heard about fact that Ford future proofed the 5.0 so it does not fall back like it did with the 4.6.

dnasty370z · 09-13-2010, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

I tell you what though, i'll be a pissed off SOB if they come out with a direct injected 5.0 for the 12' GT that puts out 440hp and 410 ft/lbs, that would make me go insane.

And yet this other guy does not get what i have been trying to say atleast you do lol

Lug · 09-13-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dnasty370z

And yet this other guy does not get what i have been trying to say atleast you do lol

I understand being pissed off, just not being pissed off at Ford (which was your original point). You should be more pissed at yourself for lack of research than at Ford for improving a product "too much". Say you bought a 2011 that only boosted HP 50 hp but found out later the 2012 had another 50 hp they "self limited" off the 2011 so they wouldn't look "unfair". Now you got all the 2011 owners pissed off for them limiting the 2011 for no technological or cost reason. See? As far as being "fair" to Chevy...that's just beyond thoughtful discussion.

Lemers · 09-12-2010, 04:50 PM

Maybe I'd trade my Z in '12 if they did that

Red370 · 09-12-2010, 05:01 PM

the only issue I see with that would be that it would scavenge the sales of the Boss. Supposedly they built this engine initially for direct injection, which one would assume, would be the next stage in the build, hopefully they wait until a newer model refresh a few years down the road. Ford is planning on scrapping the 5.4 and using the 5.0 in their new trucks and GT500 cars as well, just found that out today. Imagine, a GT500 with 550+ hp and 26mpg, insanity.

m4a1mustang · 09-12-2010, 06:43 PM

The 5.0 will get DI somewhere down the line, but it probably won't be for 2012. My guess is somewhere around the 2013-2015 refresh.

theDreamer · 09-12-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The 5.0 will get DI somewhere down the line, but it probably won't be for 2012. My guess is somewhere around the 2013-2015 refresh.

I was thinking the 50th anniversary edition?

Red370 · 09-12-2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I was thinking the 50th anniversary edition?

methinks this may be the case. I'll also assume they'll have a plug and play DI kit for aftermarket purchase as well. Woot for that.

Modshack · 09-13-2010, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

I tell you what though, i'll be a pissed off SOB if they come out with a direct injected 5.0 for the 12' GT that puts out 440hp and 410 ft/lbs, that would make me go insane.

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Originally Posted by Red370

methinks this may be the case. I'll also assume they'll have a plug and play DI kit for aftermarket purchase as well. Woot for that.

Careful what you wish for! VW, Audi, Porsche, BMW etc are having all kinds of issues with Valve deposits. With direct injection, you no longer have the cleansing effects of fuel passing through the intake track, keeping the valves clean etc. I think Toyota has an upstream aux. injector to deal with this on theirs.

Doubt there will be a retrofit as the fuel rail runs at 2000 psi+ with direct injection! In the hands of your average DIY semi-skilled guy this would be a disaster waiting to happen!

Mine's already putting out 440hp plus.....so I'm not holding my breath on this!

VW 2.0 FSI direct injected engine:

Red370 · 09-12-2010, 06:58 PM

and that'll be around the time i'm done payin for this bad boy, then of course, i'll be upgrading

Lemers · 09-12-2010, 06:59 PM

I think that ford will work the DI into it's hire volume cars before Ford works DI into the stang.

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Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	the only issue I see with that would be that it would scavenge the sales of the Boss. Supposedly they built this engine initially for direct injection, which one would assume, would be the next stage in the build, hopefully they wait until a newer model refresh a few years down the road. Ford is planning on scrapping the 5.4 and using the 5.0 in their new trucks and GT500 cars as well, just found that out today. Imagine, a GT500 with 550+ hp and 26mpg, insanity. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

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Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	and that'll be around the time i'm done payin for this bad boy, then of course, i'll be upgrading __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

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Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 53	I think that ford will work the DI into it's hire volume cars before Ford works DI into the stang. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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