They usually go hand-in-hand.

So does this:
http://demotivationalblog.com/demoti...than-money.jpg

Disclaimer: Minus the VCA, etc.

haha i looked at that picture and thought those vipers had completed the lap and caught up with the miata that was in last place :)

Lowering the car hurts weight-transfer. What is happening is pinion-angle is being changed and THAT is what is stopping the hop. Just adjust the pinion angle and leave ride-height alone if the drag-strip is the venue of choice.

I had a friend with a cammed LS2 GTO. It hooked okay until he lowered it a bit. No other changes made, and it wouldn't hook for beans after that on anything but DR's.

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Modern so called "Muscle" like the 2011 Mustang GT qualify as sports cars. They aren't just straight line cars anymore when they can compete with M3's.

I do agree to an extent. What I dig about the new Stang is that, depending on how you tune it, you can make it a drag strip nightmare or a corner carver.

I still feel that the Z, S2k's, and Miatas are truer to the "feel" of a sports car. But a Stang can handle with them, that's for sure.

FWIW, you can't even group the S2K and Miata in with the Z. Especially the Miata 1st gen... it's so much lighter it feels totally different.

Sure I can. I just did. Watch, wanna see me do it again? OH, there I go again. What are you gonna do? Stop me? MWAHAHAHAHA

Miatas and S2k's are lighter, sure, but I'm referring more to suspension than anything else. Z's feel small and tight and have vurry responsive suspension. Mustangs can as well, but in the one ride I had in a Stang (some f*cking nutjob drove me around), it just felt bigger.

Now, because I'm a Z fanboy, I'm going to take back the nice things I've said and say that a Stang isn't a sports car because of SRA. There. See what you've done now?

lolol

You're lucky that nutjob didn't drive you to an abandoned industrial park and rape you. :yum:

He kept hinting at how he'd like to "try out the back seat" and how his last car "didn't have such a luxurious back seat" and how I should "smell this chloroform air freshener". I think I was extremely close to just such a thing.

Anyway, I agree that the modern stang is both a capable sports car and muscle car and rape wagon

So how is your mustang M4 ohohoho.

today I saw the most badass dodge ram ever.

Viper 8.4 V10 engine swap, supercharged I think(I know it got that or turbos, its boosted in any case)
upgraded suspension, some aero edits. completly redone exhaust.

He floored it at the gas station I always eat at, I came, most beautifull noise ever.

You guys never got the SRT10 truck?
There is a Dodge truck that has the Viper V10 in it from factory here, it sucks horribly.

Dodge...doesnt sell the RAMs here. the only cars dodge sell here are the journey, caliber and nitro

no mustang, no viper, no ram, no camaro or anything fun and american.

there IS one corvette dealership here but yeah. not plenty of american fun here.

but damn the ford focus everywhere

Yeah they are lapping the miata :driving: