Official: 2012 Boss 302

m4a1mustang · 08-13-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

The issue I see with Nissan is you have a 30k car and an 80k car.
Now Ford does not have anything over 60k currently (Ford GT), but they feel the gap between 30k to 60k nicely. If I want a track ready street car I can get a GT500 or now a Boss 302, but with Nissan you get a good value sports car which needs track work or a super car.

Pharmacist · 08-13-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

The issue I see with Nissan is you have a 30k car and an 80k car.
Now Ford does not have anything over 60k currently (Ford GT), but they feel the gap between 30k to 60k nicely. If I want a track ready street car I can get a GT500 or now a Boss 302, but with Nissan you get a good value sports car which needs track work or a super car.

true. if they would have bumped the gt-r a bit higher in price, like 20 or 30 k more, it would have left some breathing room large enough to fit a more upgraded track oriented z. as such, there's not much room to do major upgrades to the z without encroaching onto gtr territory in price and performance.

m4a1mustang · 08-13-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

true. if they would have bumped the gt-r a bit higher in price, like 20 or 30 k more, it would have left some breathing room large enough to fit a more upgraded track oriented z. as such, there's not much room to do major upgrades to the z without encroaching onto gtr territory in price and performance.

Yeah but then they end up ruining the GTR if they bump the price up that much. It's supposed to be the "affordable supercar."

Pharmacist · 08-13-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yeah but then they end up ruining the GTR if they bump the price up that much. It's supposed to be the "affordable supercar."

it would still be a great bargain and way cheaper than a ferrari or lambo. besides aren't the corvette zr1 and viper acr priced around that range even though they are barely faster than a gtr?

m4a1mustang · 08-13-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

it would still be a great bargain and way cheaper than a ferrari or lambo. besides aren't the corvette zr1 and viper acr priced around that range even though they are barely faster than a gtr?

I sure as hell wouldn't pay $100k for a GTR. It's not worth it. If I was going to spend that much I'd just get a ZR1... which is much more than barely faster than a GTR!

FL 4Motion · 08-13-2010, 07:31 PM

The GTR doesn't need to be any more expensive, remeber, not matter what the Z gets, the GTR still will have the DCT, awd, crazy good factory brakes, and all the high tech computer gizmos, adjustable suspension etc--our hypothetical Z won't get that stuff. \

It's really two different markets. Remember, the guys shopping for the GTR and also cross shopping, ZR1's, Vipers, GT3's, 911tt's. They're not considering mustang GT's, GT500's, Z's, camaro SS's etc.

As long as our "track Z car" can stay under 55K and stay manual trans and rwd, it won't match the GTR's performance but will come in nicely between the stnd Z and the GTR. I'm thinking a limited production type car, maybe 500 per year or so. Would have to have a numbered plaque too.

m4a1mustang · 08-13-2010, 07:40 PM

Though I don't disagree that the GTR would be faster around a tight track. The AWD power delivery and computer systems would really help.

But at any medium to large tracks the ZR1 is going to win.

It's kind of like the 370Z vs. Mustang GT. The Z might win on an auto cross course, but the GT will beat us on any other track.

FL 4Motion · 08-13-2010, 07:50 PM

Alright, I'm going to stop now, cause we're getting WAY too offtopic now, I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree on this point.

Anyway, back on topic, I would love to have one of these boss302's in my garage at some point, I have to give Ford alot of credit, they have really, really stepped up their game over the last few years. Nice to see an american manufacturer doing so too.

m4a1mustang · 08-13-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Alright, I'm going to stop now, cause we're getting WAY too offtopic now, I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree on this point.

Anyway, back on topic, I would love to have one of these boss302's in my garage at some point, I have to give Ford alot of credit, they have really, really stepped up their game over the last few years. Nice to see an american manufacturer doing so too.

If I ever SC my Z I am going to paint the valve covers Ford Racing Blue.

Pharmacist · 08-13-2010, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Alright, I'm going to stop now, cause we're getting WAY too offtopic now, I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree on this point.

Anyway, back on topic, I would love to have one of these boss302's in my garage at some point, I have to give Ford alot of credit, they have really, really stepped up their game over the last few years. Nice to see an american manufacturer doing so too.

true they improved the mustang a lot. 2 yrs ago it was a heap of junk. the 2011 model now has respectable numbers and decent performance. they still need to get rid of that damn live axle, and maybe shrink the car's size a bit, something along the size of the previous generation mustang will be good. the interior though still remains awful. when will an american car ever come with a good interior?

FL 4Motion · 08-13-2010, 07:52 PM

Uh oh....this thread is starting to take a serious detour....

m4a1mustang · 08-13-2010, 08:06 PM

Before you get all mad remember that I

at 99% of your posts in Mustang threads (though you've been good in this one

) so I hope you know I'm just f*cking with you guys.

Red370 · 08-13-2010, 08:23 PM

I'm going to test drive a GT tomorrow... with 3.73 gears.. i'm nervous for my Z

m4a1mustang · 08-13-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

I'm going to test drive a GT tomorrow... with 3.73 gears.. i'm nervous for my Z

3.73s... good man!

Does it have the Brembo brake package?

Red370 · 08-13-2010, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

3.73s... good man!

Does it have the Brembo brake package?

yeah, sure does, and its graphite, just the color i'd get... ah man

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Though I don't disagree that the GTR would be faster around a tight track. The AWD power delivery and computer systems would really help. But at any medium to large tracks the ZR1 is going to win. It's kind of like the 370Z vs. Mustang GT. The Z might win on an auto cross course, but the GT will beat us on any other track. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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FL 4Motion A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 4,776 Drives: Baby Shark Rep Power: 701616	The GTR doesn't need to be any more expensive, remeber, not matter what the Z gets, the GTR still will have the DCT, awd, crazy good factory brakes, and all the high tech computer gizmos, adjustable suspension etc--our hypothetical Z won't get that stuff. \ It's really two different markets. Remember, the guys shopping for the GTR and also cross shopping, ZR1's, Vipers, GT3's, 911tt's. They're not considering mustang GT's, GT500's, Z's, camaro SS's etc. As long as our "track Z car" can stay under 55K and stay manual trans and rwd, it won't match the GTR's performance but will come in nicely between the stnd Z and the GTR. I'm thinking a limited production type car, maybe 500 per year or so. Would have to have a numbered plaque too.

08-13-2010, 07:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
FL 4Motion A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 4,776 Drives: Baby Shark Rep Power: 701616	Alright, I'm going to stop now, cause we're getting WAY too offtopic now, I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree on this point. Anyway, back on topic, I would love to have one of these boss302's in my garage at some point, I have to give Ford alot of credit, they have really, really stepped up their game over the last few years. Nice to see an american manufacturer doing so too.

08-13-2010, 07:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
FL 4Motion A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 4,776 Drives: Baby Shark Rep Power: 701616	Uh oh....this thread is starting to take a serious detour....