2011 Mustang 5.0 Turbo

frost · 08-08-2010, 06:53 PM

SmoothZ · 08-08-2010, 07:01 PM

LOL... the VG and VQ engines are great and reliable engines. I didn't know they were crap. I'm speaking from experience.

Cardio, what do you drive and why?

Lemers · 08-08-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ

LOL... the VG and VQ engines are great and reliable engines. I didn't know they were crap. I'm speaking from experience.

Cardio, what do you drive and why?

the VQ has been on the Ward's magazine best 10 engines every year from 1995 to 2008.

Ward's 10 Best Engines

Lug · 08-08-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

Thanks for the validation. Ford didn't develope a new engine they just copied an existing one and made it bigger

Ford didn't develop the engine? In that case, I assume you understand that 4valves per cylinder and variable valve timing on both intake and exhaust didn't originate in the 370Z, correct?

From the WIKI:

The first variable valve timing systems came into existence in the nineteenth century on steam engines. Stephenson valve gear, as used on early steam locomotives, supported variable cutoff, that is, changes to the time at which the admission of steam to the cylinders is cut off during the power stroke.

DAMM those nissan engineers for ripping off our steam technology!!!!!

SmoothZ · 08-08-2010, 07:36 PM

And damn those French! I know for a fact that the Ford Ranger tranny and/or diff is manufactured in France and then shipped here for final install at the factory. Who would have thunk it? lol

Trips · 08-08-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ

And damn those French! I know for a fact that the Ford Ranger tranny and/or diff is manufactured in France and then shipped here for final install at the factory. Who would have thunk it? lol

I just heard a French, on the Range, with a Tranny....

GZ3 · 08-09-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

Yes the VQ is pretty much max out and it is pretty unrefined. It's defiantly not the best motor out there by a long shot. And it could defiantly use a good dose of Torque and that Torque needs to begin sooner in the RPM range. Believe it or not the 370z isn't perfect hence the reason I'm holding off to see what happens within the next yr or so.

The VHR is an awesome engine, please tell me your at least making these statements based on first hand experience, and not just mag articles or a brief test drive? And i dont think anyone on here is saying this is the best motor out there by any stretch especially being at 30k range. There is no perfect engine and if thats what your waiting for, you might as well cut your losses and get a bicycle.

mrcardio · 08-09-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

No, I am talking about the quote in bold.
You have zero information on any of this, the reason I know so is because I read more of this BS information everyday than I care to.

On the note of the high oil, LSD, etc. Well...duh, everyone on here knows that, but the fact remains that it is "good enough" for street use. You want to track this car or start throwing on forced induction, of course you are going to need to upgrade those components, you will have on any car in the 30k price range.

For one I answered your question, don't play dumb.

Second, a sub par limited slip, oil cooling, brakes, etc are things that could use work and not every 30-40k car requires this for track use.

It's obvious you're in massive denial.

theDreamer · 08-09-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

For one I answered your question, don't play dumb.

Second, a sub par limited slip, oil cooling, brakes, etc are things that could use work and not every 30-40k car requires this for track use.

It's obvious you're in massive denial.

Really? Is that why I tell people they should get an oil cooler, upgrade brakes, etc. if hitting the track? I am not in the denial at all, I know those parts on this car would use some TLC from factory to compete with more heavy hitters.

Second, you did not answer my question, I said nothing about oil cooler, LSD, etc. I asked about where you got your information on the Mercedes engine, upgrades to the car (oil cooler standard), etc. You jumped past these points and went on your own tangent of how "sub-par" these parts are without providing a shred of valid evidence to my direct question.

mrcardio · 08-09-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

The VHR is an awesome engine, please tell me your at least making these statements based on first hand experience, and not just mag articles or a brief test drive? And i dont think anyone on here is saying this is the best motor out there by any stretch especially being at 30k range. There is no perfect engine and if thats what your waiting for, you might as well cut your losses and get a bicycle.

Did I say I was waiting for a "perfect" engine?? You're making it seem as though the VQ is nearly "perfect" when that couldn't be farther from the truth as I stated. It's low on torque and sounds like a pickup truck in the upper RPMS. Like I said, get some experience under your belt so that you havea basis of comparison. Get a bicycle? Cut my losses? You sound like you got sand up in you clit for real.

mrcardio · 08-09-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Really? Is that why I tell people they should get an oil cooler, upgrade brakes, etc. if hitting the track? I am not in the denial at all, I know those parts on this car would use some TLC from factory to compete with more heavy hitters.

Second, you did not answer my question, I said nothing about oil cooler, LSD, etc. I asked about where you got your information on the Mercedes engine, upgrades to the car (oil cooler standard), etc. You jumped past these points and went on your own tangent of how "sub-par" these parts are without providing a shred of valid evidence to my direct question.

Okay brain child! You obviously have a huge problem with reading comprehension! Do yourself a favor and get someone who can read explain to you exactly what I posted.

theDreamer · 08-09-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

Okay brain child! You obviously have a huge problem with reading comprehension! Do yourself a favor and get someone who can read explain to you exactly what I posted.

Wow, you now are moving onto insults since your lack of information has been peeled back and shown to be nothing more than a rotten apple with a shiny cover. All you have to do is provide a little bit of information, 5 minutes of your day and you can prove yourself right, but it becomes very hard to do that when the information you seek does not exist.

Sibze · 08-09-2010, 01:57 PM

O snap!

This thread still open? wow

Sibze · 08-09-2010, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

Okay brain child! You obviously have a huge problem with reading comprehension! Do yourself a favor and get someone who can read explain to you exactly what I posted.

mrcardio · 08-09-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ

LOL... the VG and VQ engines are great and reliable engines. I didn't know they were crap. I'm speaking from experience.

Cardio, what do you drive and why?

For one, I didn't say VQ's were "crap" but I wouldn't exactly call them "awesome" either.

What do I drive and why? 08 MS3 GT, 3yrs ago I was in a serious relationship with a woman who had an 8 yr old daughter so I didn't what to purchase a very expensive impractical car. Yeah I could’ve bought a M3 or Porsche Cayman S, etc if I wanted but I was saving for house. Regardless the MS3 isn't a bad car for the money and with a little invested it runs quite well. I don't drag race much but people have been running 13.4@107+ with just intake and AP. It handles well too especially with coil over suspension.

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