2011 Mustang 5.0 Turbo

mrcardio

The 11' Mustang GT is roughly the same weight / power as the E92 M3. I think I would still rather have the M3 though regardless of cost. I've read that the next Z will have an upgraded limited slip (apparently the current one is basically crap) come stock with oil cooler and possibly a new motor supplied by Mercedes. Supposedly it will have a lot more torque and be more refined vs. the max-out /trashy VQ.

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GZ3

maxed out trashy VQ?? this is the 370z . com not my 350z . com.... the 3.7 VHR is an amazing motor sir, idk what your talking about

mrcardio

Yes the VQ is pretty much max out and it is pretty unrefined. It's defiantly not the best motor out there by a long shot. And it could defiantly use a good dose of Torque and that Torque needs to begin sooner in the RPM range. Believe it or not the 370z isn't perfect hence the reason I'm holding off to see what happens within the next yr or so.

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GZ3

The VHR is an awesome engine, please tell me your at least making these statements based on first hand experience, and not just mag articles or a brief test drive? And i dont think anyone on here is saying this is the best motor out there by any stretch especially being at 30k range. There is no perfect engine and if thats what your waiting for, you might as well cut your losses and get a bicycle.

mrcardio

Did I say I was waiting for a "perfect" engine?? You're making it seem as though the VQ is nearly "perfect" when that couldn't be farther from the truth as I stated. It's low on torque and sounds like a pickup truck in the upper RPMS. Like I said, get some experience under your belt so that you havea basis of comparison. Get a bicycle? Cut my losses? You sound like you got sand up in you clit for real.

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GZ3

sand up my clit!? Your the one that cant keep his little girlie emotions in check, I was bieng as civil and reasonable as possible but you obviosly have some sort of interpretation problem to where you taking offense and getting butt hurt. If this quoted statement BY YOU isnt suggestive of you saying you are waiting for a perfect car, then i dont know what it. Do you even know how to carry a civil arguement with resorting to insults to make up for your lack of capacity?? your a joke

mrcardio

Lack of capacity? Really? I'm walking all over you sir that's the funny thing.

And no, my statement in no way implied I was waiting for something "perfect". You making that assumption just prove you lack any sort of capacity to carry on a conversation with me. What is your age btw? 18-19?

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GZ3

haha, walking all over what?? please explain, All i ever said was the VHR is an awesome engine. If you extract anymore out of that, thats your interpretation issues again. I said nothing to flare your emotions out of control so just relax...no one on here, and i MEAN NO ONE, said the VHR is the end all motor. Get a grip buddy...your arguing things that are even being adressed

mrcardio

You're lost in space.

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theDreamer

Who is giving you any of this information?

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mrcardio

Try reading more often. I can't pin point exactly where I've read about the topic because I read so much but if you try doing a bit of research I'm al most certain you'll run into it. If I recall I’ll post the source but it really shouldn’t be so hard to believe regardless. The VQ is pretty unrefined / low on torque, the limited slip is sub par and there are issues with the oil over heating, etc. It might be a tough pill for you to swallow but the facts are the facts. Lastly, if you don't think the VQ could use some work try driving a few other cars. But don't drive a new Boxter / Cayman S because you'll walk away really depressed. I'm not saying it's a POS or anything but being in denial doesn't help improve anything. You live and learn.

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theDreamer

No, I am talking about the quote in bold.
You have zero information on any of this, the reason I know so is because I read more of this BS information everyday than I care to.

On the note of the high oil, LSD, etc. Well...duh, everyone on here knows that, but the fact remains that it is "good enough" for street use. You want to track this car or start throwing on forced induction, of course you are going to need to upgrade those components, you will have on any car in the 30k price range.

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mrcardio

For one I answered your question, don't play dumb.

Second, a sub par limited slip, oil cooling, brakes, etc are things that could use work and not every 30-40k car requires this for track use.

It's obvious you're in massive denial.

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theDreamer

Really? Is that why I tell people they should get an oil cooler, upgrade brakes, etc. if hitting the track? I am not in the denial at all, I know those parts on this car would use some TLC from factory to compete with more heavy hitters.

Second, you did not answer my question, I said nothing about oil cooler, LSD, etc. I asked about where you got your information on the Mercedes engine, upgrades to the car (oil cooler standard), etc. You jumped past these points and went on your own tangent of how "sub-par" these parts are without providing a shred of valid evidence to my direct question.

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theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY
Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

mrcardio

Okay brain child! You obviously have a huge problem with reading comprehension! Do yourself a favor and get someone who can read explain to you exactly what I posted.

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