2011 Mustang 5.0 Turbo

LiquidZ · 08-05-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

I agree, cant someone make a high horsepower car nowadays and keep the weight around 3200 lbs? doesnt seem like that would be a hard mission to accomplish..

That usually entails 2 seat sport cars (Corvette, Z), high dollar sports cars made with exotic materials, or piddly 4 bangers.

m4a1mustang · 08-05-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ

That isually entails 2 seat sport cars (Corvette, Z), high dollar sports cars made with exotic materials, or piddly 4 bangers.

Truth. Two seaters fall in that low 3k lb zone.

Red370 · 08-05-2010, 12:28 PM

4 seater honda civics are pretty light no? granted they have 4 cyl engines, but an aluminum block V8 shouldnt stack too much more onto the weight right?

LiquidZ · 08-05-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

4 seater honda civics are pretty light no? granted they have 4 cyl engines, but an aluminum block V8 shouldnt stack too much more onto the weight right?

The downside to the OHC design is the packaging. This is another reason I love the pushrod LS engine. My dad's LS7 was much smaller than my 4.6 mod motor, even though the displacement would lead you to believe otherwise.

The Mustang is definitely really light for its segment, but not the lightest on the road. Early reports say Ford engineers are going with the "less is more" approach with the next gen. Mustang to lower the weight.

m4a1mustang · 08-05-2010, 12:31 PM

Yes they are light, but they are also compact cars, so compared to a Mustang they are tiny.

Like I said before the Mustang is a lightweight compared to cars of its size.

shadoquad · 08-05-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yes they are light, but they are also compact cars, so compared to a Mustang they are tiny.

Like I said before the Mustang is a lightweight compared to cars of its size.

Yes, 400hp to 3600lbs is great power-to-weight ratio. The Challenger is the bloated beast in this segment, although it'll have smokin' power soon enough. I'd probably still prefer a Z or Stang to it.

Although, I love a good light roadster like a Miata or an Elise. Light weight, small 4 banger. It's not a drag strip star, but it'll tear up corners.

And the MS3 is pretty nice for a 4-door grocery hauler. It's a compact, but it's brutal fun.

Red370 · 08-05-2010, 12:40 PM

I'm thinkin Toyota Corolla with a 5.0 swap.

mrcardio · 08-05-2010, 01:52 PM

The 11' Mustang GT is roughly the same weight / power as the E92 M3. I think I would still rather have the M3 though regardless of cost. I've read that the next Z will have an upgraded limited slip (apparently the current one is basically crap) come stock with oil cooler and possibly a new motor supplied by Mercedes. Supposedly it will have a lot more torque and be more refined vs. the max-out /trashy VQ.

GZ3 · 08-05-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

The 11' Mustang GT is roughly the same weight / power as the E92 M3. I think I would still rather have the M3 though regardless of cost. I've read that the next Z will have an upgraded limited slip (apparently the current one is basically crap) come stock with oil cooler and possibly a new motor supplied by Mercedes. Supposedly it will have a lot more torque and be more refined vs. the max-out /trashy VQ.

maxed out trashy VQ?? this is the 370z . com not my 350z . com.... the 3.7 VHR is an amazing motor sir, idk what your talking about

mrcardio · 08-08-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

maxed out trashy VQ?? this is the 370z . com not my 350z . com.... the 3.7 VHR is an amazing motor sir, idk what your talking about

Yes the VQ is pretty much max out and it is pretty unrefined. It's defiantly not the best motor out there by a long shot. And it could defiantly use a good dose of Torque and that Torque needs to begin sooner in the RPM range. Believe it or not the 370z isn't perfect hence the reason I'm holding off to see what happens within the next yr or so.

GZ3 · 08-09-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

Yes the VQ is pretty much max out and it is pretty unrefined. It's defiantly not the best motor out there by a long shot. And it could defiantly use a good dose of Torque and that Torque needs to begin sooner in the RPM range. Believe it or not the 370z isn't perfect hence the reason I'm holding off to see what happens within the next yr or so.

The VHR is an awesome engine, please tell me your at least making these statements based on first hand experience, and not just mag articles or a brief test drive? And i dont think anyone on here is saying this is the best motor out there by any stretch especially being at 30k range. There is no perfect engine and if thats what your waiting for, you might as well cut your losses and get a bicycle.

mrcardio · 08-09-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

The VHR is an awesome engine, please tell me your at least making these statements based on first hand experience, and not just mag articles or a brief test drive? And i dont think anyone on here is saying this is the best motor out there by any stretch especially being at 30k range. There is no perfect engine and if thats what your waiting for, you might as well cut your losses and get a bicycle.

Did I say I was waiting for a "perfect" engine?? You're making it seem as though the VQ is nearly "perfect" when that couldn't be farther from the truth as I stated. It's low on torque and sounds like a pickup truck in the upper RPMS. Like I said, get some experience under your belt so that you havea basis of comparison. Get a bicycle? Cut my losses? You sound like you got sand up in you clit for real.

GZ3 · 08-09-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

Believe it or not the 370z isn't perfect hence the reason I'm holding off to see what happens within the next yr or so.

sand up my clit!?

Your the one that cant keep his little girlie emotions in check, I was bieng as civil and reasonable as possible but you obviosly have some sort of interpretation problem to where you taking offense and getting butt hurt. If this quoted statement BY YOU isnt suggestive of you saying you are waiting for a perfect car, then i dont know what it. Do you even know how to carry a civil arguement with resorting to insults to make up for your lack of capacity?? your a joke

mrcardio · 08-09-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

sand up my clit!?

Your the one that cant keep his little girlie emotions in check, I was bieng as civil and reasonable as possible but you obviosly have some sort of interpretation problem to where you taking offense and getting butt hurt. If this quoted statement BY YOU isnt suggestive of you saying you are waiting for a perfect car, then i dont know what it. Do you even know how to carry a civil arguement with resorting to insults to make up for your lack of capacity?? your a joke

Lack of capacity? Really? I'm walking all over you sir that's the funny thing.

And no, my statement in no way implied I was waiting for something "perfect". You making that assumption just prove you lack any sort of capacity to carry on a conversation with me. What is your age btw? 18-19?

theDreamer · 08-05-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

The 11' Mustang GT is roughly the same weight / power as the E92 M3. I think I would still rather have the M3 though regardless of cost. I've read that the next Z will have an upgraded limited slip (apparently the current one is basically crap) come stock with oil cooler and possibly a new motor supplied by Mercedes. Supposedly it will have a lot more torque and be more refined vs. the max-out /trashy VQ.

Who is giving you any of this information?

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Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	I'm thinkin Toyota Corolla with a 5.0 swap. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

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mrcardio Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central Florida Posts: 219 Drives: 08 MS3 Rep Power: 15	The 11' Mustang GT is roughly the same weight / power as the E92 M3. I think I would still rather have the M3 though regardless of cost. I've read that the next Z will have an upgraded limited slip (apparently the current one is basically crap) come stock with oil cooler and possibly a new motor supplied by Mercedes. Supposedly it will have a lot more torque and be more refined vs. the max-out /trashy VQ. __________________ ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^› Last edited by mrcardio; 08-05-2010 at 02:05 PM.

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