Indy 500 Pace car ...

snaggeltooth · 02-26-2009, 07:49 PM

2009 Indianapolis 500 Pace Car - 2010 Chevrolet Camaro :: Official site of the Indianapolis 500
Well what do you guys think ??

M.Bonanni · 02-26-2009, 07:52 PM

I think I am sick of that car already. GM really screwed up by hyping that thing up for the past few years and still not releasing it. Remember when it was going to be the all new 2008 Camaro? lol

dad · 02-26-2009, 08:07 PM

Bfd!

snaggeltooth · 02-26-2009, 08:21 PM

Now dont get me wrong guys .. I am by no means a big fan of the new Camaro.. But I know what the people on a LS1 site would say.. I just wondered what the rest of the world thinks ....

MightyBobo · 02-27-2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by snaggeltooth

Now dont get me wrong guys .. I am by no means a big fan of the new Camaro.. But I know what the people on a LS1 site would say.. I just wondered what the rest of the world thinks ....

You'd be surprised. Its arrival has mixed feelings. Trans Am/Firebird fans tend to hate it, mainly because there IS no Pontiac version. Camaro guys, its a mixed bag. Some said they'd just get a Challenger, others said they loved it, others said they were indifferent.

Personally, owning a 1969 Camaro and a 2000 Camaro, I think it has all the right looks...but its too god damn big. Its got the right power plant, too. IRS be damned, I dont really care (the purists want a live axle). The lines are great for a muscle car look, and I think they did a much more faithful job of that than the new Mustang did. The Challenger practically mirrors its older version (pity its 4100 lbs).

The down side, is its SO ******* HEAVY. The 1SS (lowest package that has the 6.2L LS3) weighs over 3900 lbs! I was planning on getting one as long as it weighed somewhat close to my 2000 (which is about 3400 lbs). Oh, how disappointed I was when it came out so heavy

. Such a pity, it looks cool, but its going to be just as much of a dog as the GTO is.

frost · 02-27-2009, 12:07 PM

The color combo isn't to my taste, but I was not surprised at all when I heart the camaro was chosen for the task.

!xoible · 02-27-2009, 12:24 PM

lol let's get a car and put a bunch of decals on it and call it SPECIAL!!!!!!!

frost · 02-27-2009, 12:31 PM

I'm wondering what happened to the orange version:

snaggeltooth · 02-27-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

You'd be surprised. Its arrival has mixed feelings. Trans Am/Firebird fans tend to hate it, mainly because there IS no Pontiac version. Camaro guys, its a mixed bag. Some said they'd just get a Challenger, others said they loved it, others said they were indifferent.

Personally, owning a 1969 Camaro and a 2000 Camaro, I think it has all the right looks...but its too god damn big. Its got the right power plant, too. IRS be damned, I dont really care (the purists want a live axle). The lines are great for a muscle car look, and I think they did a much more faithful job of that than the new Mustang did. The Challenger practically mirrors its older version (pity its 4100 lbs).

The down side, is its SO ******* HEAVY. The 1SS (lowest package that has the 6.2L LS3) weighs over 3900 lbs! I was planning on getting one as long as it weighed somewhat close to my 2000 (which is about 3400 lbs). Oh, how disappointed I was when it came out so heavy

. Such a pity, it looks cool, but its going to be just as much of a dog as the GTO is.

Dont get me started about a GTO.. I do agree a lot of people are going to be dissapointed with this car , and it is comeing out at the worst time.. The 370Z is the first car that I have seen and really liked in a long , long time , I do like the G35.. I dont think the car is going to live up to the hype and wont be in production to long ...

MightyBobo · 02-28-2009, 07:12 AM

This is the sad truth: I absolutely LOVE Chevy. Ive grown up a Chevy/GM family (a grandfather giving me the GM employee discount kinda helps). As far as powerplants, its tough to beat the LSX small block Chevys in...well, anything. Pushrod or not, its hard to argue with a 500+ HP V8 thats still getting mid to high 20's on the thruway, and high teens in the city. Its all in the head design. Yeah, their interiors blow. Yeah, they start squeaking and vibrating in random places in no time (my brand new 08 Silverado w/ 9K miles after less than a year, has its driver-side window squeeling like MAD when it goes up/down in cold weather, among other things lol). But man, the power plant alone in them sometimes makes it worth it lol.

However, as of late, my new passion is wanting to get into road coursing. For over a year, Ive vowed that my next car would be something I can drive the **** out of at an HPDE/Auto-X, and not be something that I take out just for fun - it'd have to be competitive in its class.

The 370 is one of the few cars that Ive looked at that is NON-Chevy, and a non-exotic, that I just feel like I have to have not only on looks, but performance merits too. Lightweight (its no Miata, but its trim compared to others), nimble, and quick - it fits the bill in everything I want. Its a VERY attractive car for those of us with enough cash who wants to get into the track scene...

snaggeltooth · 02-28-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

This is the sad truth: I absolutely LOVE Chevy. Ive grown up a Chevy/GM family (a grandfather giving me the GM employee discount kinda helps). As far as powerplants, its tough to beat the LSX small block Chevys in...well, anything. Pushrod or not, its hard to argue with a 500+ HP V8 thats still getting mid to high 20's on the thruway, and high teens in the city. Its all in the head design. Yeah, their interiors blow. Yeah, they start squeaking and vibrating in random places in no time (my brand new 08 Silverado w/ 9K miles after less than a year, has its driver-side window squeeling like MAD when it goes up/down in cold weather, among other things lol). But man, the power plant alone in them sometimes makes it worth it lol.

However, as of late, my new passion is wanting to get into road coursing. For over a year, Ive vowed that my next car would be something I can drive the **** out of at an HPDE/Auto-X, and not be something that I take out just for fun - it'd have to be competitive in its class.

The 370 is one of the few cars that Ive looked at that is NON-Chevy, and a non-exotic, that I just feel like I have to have not only on looks, but performance merits too. Lightweight (its no Miata, but its trim compared to others), nimble, and quick - it fits the bill in everything I want. Its a VERY attractive car for those of us with enough cash who wants to get into the track scene...

You know all of the Big 3 have went to this rounder fatter look...The Challenger, Camaro, and now the Mustang .. They all look from the side like a brick sitting on top of a block ...The Camaros grill is terrible .. Noth that I dont like the look , but it is so wide and flat ... rest of the car is OK, and that steering wheel,,

.. Biggest problem is the blind spot on the passenger side .. It looks worse than that on the Challenger , and that is saying something .. I hope it does well ....

MightyBobo · 02-28-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by snaggeltooth

You know all of the Big 3 have went to this rounder fatter look...The Challenger, Camaro, and now the Mustang .. They all look from the side like a brick sitting on top of a block ...The Camaros grill is terrible .. Noth that I dont like the look , but it is so wide and flat ... rest of the car is OK, and that steering wheel,,

.. Biggest problem is the blind spot on the passenger side .. It looks worse than that on the Challenger , and that is saying something .. I hope it does well ....

That was the intent - to look somewhat like the grill on the 69 Camaro. Which is, of course, extremely flat and wide lol.

I just think it did a better job of taking some classic styling hints frmo the 69 Camaro, than the new Mustang did at ALL from the classic Mustangs.

Steering wheel looks dumb.

I dont think the 370Z's blindspots will be any better

snaggeltooth · 02-28-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

That was the intent - to look somewhat like the grill on the 69 Camaro. Which is, of course, extremely flat and wide lol.

I just think it did a better job of taking some classic styling hints frmo the 69 Camaro, than the new Mustang did at ALL from the classic Mustangs.

Steering wheel looks dumb.

I dont think the 370Z's blindspots will be any better

but the point I am makeing is look at the 69 .. it had the grill, healight inserts, bumper, valance panel and a lower lip spoiler .. the new Camaro just has this one big ugly molded piece of plastic...

frost · 02-28-2009, 01:21 PM

Over on camaro5.com, the main camaro developer is an avid poster, and assured the people that he wanted headlight inserts, but couldn't get them to meet current safety regulations.

frost · 02-28-2009, 01:24 PM

Also (and I hate being repetitive since I have posted a similar comment in other threads) but I've owned a 4th gen camaro SS, trans am ws6, two c5 vettes, a c6 vette, the $50K ssr (vette truck) and some others, and none of them had the same quality as my 350z. So that's why I've been leaning away from going back to GM. You're paying for the engine, and basically nothing else.

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MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 52	This is the sad truth: I absolutely LOVE Chevy. Ive grown up a Chevy/GM family (a grandfather giving me the GM employee discount kinda helps). As far as powerplants, its tough to beat the LSX small block Chevys in...well, anything. Pushrod or not, its hard to argue with a 500+ HP V8 thats still getting mid to high 20's on the thruway, and high teens in the city. Its all in the head design. Yeah, their interiors blow. Yeah, they start squeaking and vibrating in random places in no time (my brand new 08 Silverado w/ 9K miles after less than a year, has its driver-side window squeeling like MAD when it goes up/down in cold weather, among other things lol). But man, the power plant alone in them sometimes makes it worth it lol. However, as of late, my new passion is wanting to get into road coursing. For over a year, Ive vowed that my next car would be something I can drive the **** out of at an HPDE/Auto-X, and not be something that I take out just for fun - it'd have to be competitive in its class. The 370 is one of the few cars that Ive looked at that is NON-Chevy, and a non-exotic, that I just feel like I have to have not only on looks, but performance merits too. Lightweight (its no Miata, but its trim compared to others), nimble, and quick - it fits the bill in everything I want. Its a VERY attractive car for those of us with enough cash who wants to get into the track scene...