Indy 500 Pace car ...

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Alright, maybe I was a little harsh in saying a 13.5 stock isnt fast. But it certainly isnt amazing when stock 98-02 F-bodies ran better times years ago. Stock.

Maybe I'm just tired of B16-swapped Honda Civic Hatch douche bags who think breaking into the 14's is an accomplishment, when any kid can go grab mommy's Nissan Maxima 3.5 and run a better time.

Either way, my point remains the same on the performance aspect of the LSX. The block is stronger. The bottom end is stronger. It responds to mods better (go find a cam-swap kit for it that will up your WHP by 50+ for $1000, please). And the final slap in the face, its better on gas. Until the 5.0 comes out, stock 98-02 F-bodies will still beat stock new Mustangs. Unless its a crappy automatic without a stall, of course.

Why the hell doesn't ford slam the 5.4L in it and call it a day?

Originally Posted by LiquidZ

I totally agree with you on the LSX. I'm begging my dad to do some serious mods to it.

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Heads + cam + intake + headers-back = 450+ WHP in an LS1. Toss in a little shot of giggle juice and its a joke. It used to be hard (read: expensive) to hit 500 WHP. Now, not nearly as much. You can do that with $3000 or so. Cam grinds just keep getting better and better.

Even without heads and a baby cam, mine put down about 400 WHP (dynojet btw - I would have preferred a Mustang dyno if I could find one...) off the juice. It was at that point that I realized...."what is up with all these people wanting 600+ HP in their street cars?" Nobody needs that, unless they just want to burn a lot of rubber, really.

Anyway, whats the dad have?

Originally Posted by LiquidZ

He has a C6 Z06. Love it.

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Hell, not much needs to be done to those. Although I find it ironic that the ZR1 was said to be easier to control than the Z06. Go figure.

Some people ran 10's with some DR's on those, bone stock. Ridiculous.

Originally Posted by LiquidZ

It truly is an amazing car. He has an intake and canned tune, but that's it. I really want him to get some Kook's LTs.