Indy 500 Pace car ...

frost · 02-28-2009, 12:24 PM

Also (and I hate being repetitive since I have posted a similar comment in other threads) but I've owned a 4th gen camaro SS, trans am ws6, two c5 vettes, a c6 vette, the $50K ssr (vette truck) and some others, and none of them had the same quality as my 350z. So that's why I've been leaning away from going back to GM. You're paying for the engine, and basically nothing else.

snaggeltooth · 02-28-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

Also (and I hate being repetitive since I have posted a similar comment in other threads) but I've owned a 4th gen camaro SS, trans am ws6, two c5 vettes, a c6 vette, the $50K ssr (vette truck) and some others, and none of them had the same quality as my 350z. So that's why I've been leaning away from going back to GM. You're paying for the engine, and basically nothing else.

As a GTO owner ...you are preaching to the choir...

frost · 02-28-2009, 12:53 PM

Oh yeah, add 06 gto to my list.

snaggeltooth · 02-28-2009, 01:33 PM

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Oh yeah, add 06 gto to my list.

GM better hope the Camaro dont have as many problems as the GTO.. But I dont think it will since it is being made in Canada

frost · 02-28-2009, 01:34 PM

The previous camaros/firebirds were made in canada, and it didn't help them.

snaggeltooth · 02-28-2009, 01:38 PM

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The previous camaros/firebirds were made in canada, and it didn't help them.

didnt take you 2 weeks to get parts ...

frost · 02-28-2009, 02:13 PM

the first or second week i owned my gto, the windshield was split by a rock. 2.5 weeks to get another, lol.

Crash · 03-02-2009, 04:47 AM

The one in transformers wasn't even a real Camaro. It was a GTO converted to look like a Camaro. Saleen did the work. GM wouldn't give them a real Camaro (since they were all prototypes at the time) to do the movie.

This pace car is going to be worth a LOT because it will be the only run of the Camaros!

LOL

m4a1mustang · 03-02-2009, 05:33 AM

I don't really like the Camaro. Saw it at the DC Auto Show a few weeks ago and don't think it looks very good up close and in person.

It's almost... tacky?

I think the new Mustang looks better... Challenger, too (even though the Challenger looks like a fat pig).

snaggeltooth · 03-02-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I don't really like the Camaro. Saw it at the DC Auto Show a few weeks ago and don't think it looks very good up close and in person.

It's almost... tacky?

I think the new Mustang looks better... Challenger, too (even though the Challenger looks like a fat pig).

And all this is IF it comes out with out any thing go wrong with it .. If it has some recalls straight out of the box ....

MaximumPwr · 03-02-2009, 11:34 AM

Traded in my 06 GTO for my 370Z. The best thing about the car was the awesome LS2 engine. Worst thing about the car was the boat like suspension. All that power and torque and the thing cornered like a greyhound bus. Even the magazines loved the muscle under the hood, but all said it seriously was lacking in the handling department. Also for some reason they sold the car with 235's all around. And there wasn't much room to go bigger. 400hp/400tqft + 235 tires = horrible traction problem. Now I have to hand it to GM's Australian Holden devision because my GTO was solid as a rock. 3.5 years of light abuse and it never squeaked, never knocked, nothing. I might of just got lucky though.

snaggeltooth · 03-02-2009, 01:24 PM

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Traded in my 06 GTO for my 370Z. The best thing about the car was the awesome LS2 engine. Worst thing about the car was the boat like suspension. All that power and torque and the thing cornered like a greyhound bus. Even the magazines loved the muscle under the hood, but all said it seriously was lacking in the handling department. Also for some reason they sold the car with 235's all around. And there wasn't much room to go bigger. 400hp/400tqft + 235 tires = horrible traction problem. Now I have to hand it to GM's Australian Holden devision because my GTO was solid as a rock. 3.5 years of light abuse and it never squeaked, never knocked, nothing. I might of just got lucky though.

well since we are of subject a little anyway .. Maybe you can give us a GTO VS 370Z walkaround ... Stuff like ride, fit, power, stoping , and such ???

LiquidZ · 03-02-2009, 03:53 PM

Camaro sucks.

Mustang will continue to be my choice of American muscle. I love my car, and I cannot wait until the 5.0 makes a return in 2011. The 5.0 is going to be the nail in the coffin for GM. Its going to perform better, handle better, and brake better. GM will not be able to respond in their current financial situation which shows no signs of getting better anytime soon.

MightyBobo · 03-03-2009, 12:57 AM

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Camaro sucks.

Mustang will continue to be my choice of American muscle. I love my car, and I cannot wait until the 5.0 makes a return in 2011. The 5.0 is going to be the nail in the coffin for GM. Its going to perform better, handle better, and brake better. GM will not be able to respond in their current financial situation which shows no signs of getting better anytime soon.

Seriously, you say it like the Mustang is any good at all. Sorry bro, but Ford has forgotten that whole "muscle" part of the "muscle car" scheme. At least GM's cars have power and efficiency. Hey, maybe they'll finally bring a 6-speed into the GT, who knows! The GT puts down as much horsepower in 4.6L form as the 3.6L V6 does in the Camaro, and LESS than the 3.7L in the 370! Quality.

Where do you get these grand schemes that the Mustang will suddenly be any better than it is now, other than power? And thats IF the 5.0 comes out! Get out of here lol. Good thing the current 4.6 still isn't putting down as much horsepower as 1997's LS1...

The best thing they had going was the Terminators - should have never stopped that concept.

LiquidZ · 03-03-2009, 09:21 AM

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Seriously, you say it like the Mustang is any good at all. Sorry bro, but Ford has forgotten that whole "muscle" part of the "muscle car" scheme. At least GM's cars have power and efficiency. Hey, maybe they'll finally bring a 6-speed into the GT, who knows! The GT puts down as much horsepower in 4.6L form as the 3.6L V6 does in the Camaro, and LESS than the 3.7L in the 370! Quality.

Where do you get these grand schemes that the Mustang will suddenly be any better than it is now, other than power? And thats IF the 5.0 comes out! Get out of here lol. Good thing the current 4.6 still isn't putting down as much horsepower as 1997's LS1...

The best thing they had going was the Terminators - should have never stopped that concept.

Let me ask you this, if the Mustang is such a paltry competitor, then why is Ford not on the verge of bankruptcy? It works.

The Mustang has had no competitor since 2002 or whenever the Camaro croaked. There wouldn't even be a new Camaro if it wasn't for the S197's success. That is the reason why the 4.6 lasted as long as it did, because there was no need to upgrade.

Now with GM's LS3 that they seem to throw into everything, Ford is bringing back the 5.0. Don't even pretend that its not going to be a reality. Just do some research.

Plus, look at the new 2010 mustang test from Motor Trend. The car stops in 108 ft, pulls 0.95g on the skidpad, and accelerates to 60 in 4.9 sec. It even does a 13.5 quarter with this archaic engine that you talk about. This all with $1495 track pack. That will only improve when the new, LIGHTER, 5.0 comes out. If a 5.0 is not your thing, then you have the 3.5L Ecoboost producing 365hp. Talk about a tuner's dream with all forged internals and direct injection to boot. This engine will be even lighter than the 4.6L

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but there is a reason why the Mustang has never ceased production. Its fast, fun, and affordable. Now

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MaximumPwr Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 78 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 17	Traded in my 06 GTO for my 370Z. The best thing about the car was the awesome LS2 engine. Worst thing about the car was the boat like suspension. All that power and torque and the thing cornered like a greyhound bus. Even the magazines loved the muscle under the hood, but all said it seriously was lacking in the handling department. Also for some reason they sold the car with 235's all around. And there wasn't much room to go bigger. 400hp/400tqft + 235 tires = horrible traction problem. Now I have to hand it to GM's Australian Holden devision because my GTO was solid as a rock. 3.5 years of light abuse and it never squeaked, never knocked, nothing. I might of just got lucky though.