Toyota FT-86/FR-S

nuTinmuch

I just want a turbo.

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flashburn

One reason why I'm still thinking about a Juke. Lowered on some 18 or 19's, and some extra HP, sounds pretty nice too me. Unfortunately the fuel efficiency isn't really what it should be.

I think it should be possible to get close to around 220-230whp on the Juke after some breather's and a tune. Uprev is working on tuning software for it now.

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FL 4Motion

/\ that's funny, we've been thinking about a Juke possibly as well. GTM is developing turbo kits (stage 1-3) and other stuff for it incl a bbk. Like you said, lowered about 1 1/2 to 2" with a nice set of 18's and it'd be a fun little dd.

Isamu

the Juke is a sweet little car man!

OT: I really hope this doesn't dissapoint... it started out so cool.. and just seems to become less and less with the more time that passes

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Jeffblue

why not 2?


intake/tune both of them and the genesis will run circles around the FT-86. there's little to no gains to be made an an NA car with a tiny motor.

Zaggeron

Your post I originally quoted stated the Genesis 2.0T was a better choice. My point was that with roughly the same horsepower (if the FT-86 stays true to the original concept horsepower of 200-210) and the Genesis being anywhere from 300-500 lbs heavier, I sincerely doubt that the 2.0T is quicker than the FT-86 will be.

As for tuning potential, I don't know if the Gen 2.0T is at the top of its tuning potential already -- I'm supposing you could add boost, but I'm not sure what a tune would for it. In any event, in general, given two similar motors -- which they really won't be that similar -- with similar HP one being turbo the other being NA, the turbo probably has an easier way to get a few extra HP by adding boost, but in general the NA motor has the higher potential for higher HP gains -- after all you could put a turbo on the FT-86.

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Jeffblue

i mean, peopel are RAVING about how cool the juke is just because its turbo'd. i'm pretty sure there are a lot of 370z guys that are like 'zomg turboz!' but, like its still 1.8t. it's not a fast car. people with our engine shouldn't be envious of that motor. Obviously the 3.7L NA in our car is going to trump the 1.8T in that car 10 times out of 10. However, all things being equal, if the desplacement is the same, the engine with FI is definitely going to be more potent, and with 1000 dollars of mods in the car it will definitely have an edge.

flashburn

I don't think anyone sane is thinking to REPLACE a 370Z with a Juke. Just that it can be made a relatively quick, unique looking, and fun daily driver, for a pretty reasonable amount of money. The fact that it is turbo should mean it's potential compared to an N/A with the same HP/size should be higher.

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Zaggeron

I really don't understand why you think that given 2 engines both of the same displacement and HP, the one with the turbo is better? If the HP and torque curves are similar and they have the same torque and HP, their performance will be similar. Turbo doesn't give one an edge above and beyond the torque and HP it adds and if two engines are already the same with respect to those figures, turbo don't mean squat. In addition, the 2.0T is almost 3300 lbs. Much heavier than the worst case scenario for the FT

Also, tuning potential is independent of turbo vs. NA -- a turbo motor doesn't intrinsically have a better tuning potential -- the turbo may be already be at its highest reliable boost, the NA may be detuned for economy reasons. There are lots of factors involved. That said, the NA has the advantage all other things being equal since you can always turbo it and pop it past the other turbo motor in terms of HP and torque.

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