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Starting to copy the Genesis front end with this look... Not sure. Also the mirrors coming off the door like that with the mini windows in front?? Do not want.

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Old 05-18-2011, 01:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Starting to copy the Genesis front end with this look... Not sure.

Also the mirrors coming off the door like that with the mini windows in front?? Do not want. Looks like a Versa knock off...



Man this is going from to real quick...
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Starting to copy the Genesis front end with this look... Not sure.

Also the mirrors coming off the door like that with the mini windows in front?? Do not want. Looks like a Versa knock off...



Man this is going from to real quick...
that's like the fucking 4th gen eclipse... one of the biggest peeves I had about that one
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They should have kept the body of the black one on the first page. This new look with the spy shots are just hideous... The lines of the body are very plain and dull looking. Way to go Scion/Subaru.........
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I wouldn't start to turn on it just yet. Those swirls DO hide angles really, really well. Not to mention they can cover up and texture sort of angle (think of the Z's hood) really well, since they don't show depth.

Also this could be the Subaru version.
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I wouldn't start to turn on it just yet. Those swirls DO hide angles really, really well. Not to mention they can cover up and texture sort of angle (think of the Z's hood) really well, since they don't show depth.

Also this could be the Subaru version.

If you look at the front end on them, you can see an oval shaped indentation for a logo... Take your pic as to whose would fit best there...



I was hoping the Subaru version would be the most interesting of the 3...
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I wouldn't start to turn on it just yet. Those swirls DO hide angles really, really well. Not to mention they can cover up and texture sort of angle (think of the Z's hood) really well, since they don't show depth.

Also this could be the Subaru version.
I love the overall shape of the car. I think the production version is gonna turn out to look good. I'm more worried about the specs and price of this car not turning out to my liking.
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I just wanna take one for a test drive already.

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^ I was actually putting more faith in a good looking Subie versus the Scion version...oh well. Next!
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all we can do is speculate until we see an actual clear un-masked version.. however, I am losing faith...
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yeah looks kinda like an rsx and evo had sex and this thing kinda came out
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Ok so i haven't read through this entire thread, but i just saw that this car is going to be powered by a 2.0 NA I4...

so much for it being fast... maybe faster than a civic.
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Ok so i haven't read through this entire thread, but i just saw that this car is going to be powered by a 2.0 NA I4...

so much for it being fast... maybe faster than a civic.
Depends on if you are one of those that are still unrealistically thinking it will weigh under 2500lbs. If it's 2200 lbs with 200hp, it would be pretty damn quick. I'd love to be proved wrong, but I'm thinking it will be closer to 3000 lbs.
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Depends on if you are one of those that are still unrealistically thinking it will weigh under 2500lbs. If it's 2200 lbs with 200hp, it would be pretty damn quick. I'd love to be proved wrong, but I'm thinking it will be closer to 3000 lbs.
yea seriously... look at an S2000 or a Miata or a lotus, thats what a LIGHT car looks like. this thing is going to weigh closer to 3000lbs. lets face it. with all this eco and mpg rave, 'fast' is now 200hp, and with all the safety regulations, 3200lbs is now 'very light'

... not a good combination if you want a fast car.

If i can go out and buy a genesis with a 2.0T or this slow **** with a 2.0 NA, its not even much of a decision. wtf man. 2.0 NA :gtfo: i thought they were actually going to build a fast car.
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If i can go out and buy a genesis with a 2.0T or this slow **** with a 2.0 NA, its not even much of a decision. wtf man. 2.0 NA :gtfo: i thought they were actually going to build a fast car.
The 2011 Genesis 2.0T has 210 HP and has a curb weight of 3294. If the FT-86 has around 200 HP even if it weights 3000lbs it should be quicker than the genesis -- The NA vs. turbo is a red herring. Just because a car has a turbo'd version of an engine with the same displacement doesn't mean it will be quicker. Also, the 2.0T is an inline 4, the FT-86 should be based on Subaru's new boxer engine. The boxer configuration allows for a lower center of gravity and hence better handling and also is distributes the operating forces better.

I'll be disappointed if it ends up weighing 3k, but should still be a decently quick and fun car @2800 lbs and 200HP. It will boil down to the price point. If we are talking 26-27K for a nicely optioned one, that's acceptable. But, on the other hand if it breaks 30k with a suite of popular options like navigation, the price may be too much what you get.
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