Oh my gosh I can't wait for the final production <3

^ I'm guessing you are being sarcastic. I am honestly looking forward to this as a replacement for my Mazda3 daily driver (not as a replacement for the Z).

Given how fun my Mazda3 is to throw around I imagine the *86 to be even more fun -- it will be lighter, more powerful by about 50 hp with a better center of gravity and weight distribution all in a decent looking coupe body.

If it is light + turbo'd I'll seriously consider a trade, tbh.

No I really can't wait haha! It's just exciting to see a new contender. I used to have a Scion and I loved it.

If Toyota can pull this FT-86 model off with Scion, then Scion will be a name to be recognize and not just another Chick's car brand.

Let the Scion "rice" begin:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1305719133

:ugh2: :shakes head:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1305

edit: Some people are saying that it is the exact same wing as the WRX STI, but whatever the case is, it looks ridiculous and is unnecessary on a 200hp car.

It's not rice if it's got a Subaru power plant, which it does. Subaru makes their rear spoiler functional. Are you saying that cars with over 200hp only deserve a spoiler wing?

It's more for aesthetics... not necessarily for racing purposes. Otherwise they'd put a GT style wing. But honestly any car without some sort of wing looks unfinished imo. Even the Z has a little lip spoiler on the sport package which although I'm not a fan of lip spoilers is better than nothing at all.

is it just me, or do the swirls do a terrible job of hiding what the car looks like

Because it's still and you can look at lighting/shading no. But imagine passing it on the street @ speed, you'd never notice 1 line.

this is true... lol

thats the exact purpose of doing cars like this till final models are out

they put them on so it shows the lines? :bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

I know what they are for, but sitting still it just doesn't do the job it's intended for :ugh2:

I'm saying if the car is 200hp and over 2800lbs, it wouldn't be functional under all but very few circumstances.

Yeah, and the aesthetics of it blow ***. The spoiler they had on the Toyota version at the unveiling was much more tasteful and not as Fast & Furious over the top as this.