2012 Mazda RX7?

Endgame · 02-14-2009, 06:01 PM

Mazda RX-7 & RX-9 in the Works - worldcarfans

Hmmmm... Does the Z have anything to worry about with a 2012 RX7 that has a 270 HP, 200 Pound Feet, 2650 pound, dual clutch tranny when it comes to the track??

HP
370Z: 332
2012 RX7: 270 (est)

Torque
370Z: 270
2012 RX7: 200 (est)

Weight
370Z: 3320
2012 RX7: 2650 (est)

Transmission
370Z: 7AT / Rev Matching 6MT
2012 RX7: 6 speed DCT

FairmanZ · 02-14-2009, 06:18 PM

2012 is a long ways off and in this crappy economy, time will only tell if it makes it into production.

But as a former original FD owner, a new RX-7 is something that I'd welcome. I have my doubts about whether Mazda can make it that light and if the 16x rotary will really deliver the power needed to compete with the Z. If Mazda is able to pull it off and wrap it in a super sexy shape like my old FD, it will certainly peak my interest.

frost · 02-14-2009, 06:20 PM

A lot of things can happen in that time frame. The chevy volt went from incredible to forgettable in like, 2 months.

Endgame · 02-14-2009, 06:28 PM

True about 2012 being a ways off. I am surprised this is still on the shelf at Mazda. They have been testing the 16x and talking about this for two years already. Well, it if makes it, at least they would have had y e a r s of R&D.

My brother in law works at a Mazda dealership and they had a mule RX8 with the 16x in it; we think. He will not 'confirm or deny'.

Crash · 02-14-2009, 08:10 PM

I doubt we'll see this. But I must say that the rendering they have is very ugly and not RX-7ish at all.

I'd imagine a 3-rotor motor would be good, but I doubt they'd ever do that again. I don't know anything about the 16x, but I'm going to assume it's 2 rotors.

I'd like to see a rotary miata, to be honest. Smaller more powerful motor in that car would be sweet.

JeepGuy · 02-14-2009, 08:46 PM

I know it would be sacrilege, but I'd love it if Mazda put the 2.4L turbo from the speed3 and 6 into the rx-8 body, a little more boost and it would put down the hp and tq figures needed to make the rx-8 a world class car. Keep the light weight, keep the great chassis, but the current engine has been considered under powered for what, 8 years now??

BanningZ · 02-14-2009, 09:06 PM

That rendering looks like someone sat on an R8.

I'd be happy with a new RX-7 but I don't see it as realistic, especially not if its going to look like that.

Endgame · 02-14-2009, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash

I doubt we'll see this. But I must say that the rendering they have is very ugly and not RX-7ish at all.

I'd imagine a 3-rotor motor would be good, but I doubt they'd ever do that again. I don't know anything about the 16x, but I'm going to assume it's 2 rotors.

I'd like to see a rotary miata, to be honest. Smaller more powerful motor in that car would be sweet.

The 16x is a two rotor, but has more displacement; and it is lighter than the current engine. From what I have heard, the redline will be lower than the RX8's in an effort to find more torque.....

02-14-2009, 09:26 PM

I like the 93+ RX7 body more still. It doesnt look dated to me so I think they should bring it back and forget that new one.

sunkist350z · 02-14-2009, 09:51 PM

As a former FD owner I would love to see a the real rx version of the sports car..not the rx8.

Endgame · 02-14-2009, 10:04 PM

I have a RX8 and would LOVE to see a real rotary sports car!

tvfreakazoid · 02-14-2009, 10:51 PM

Yes!
Nice find. It's about time mazda is doing something. I will have to admit I really like the new design. Hopefully it will come to production even though the economy is crap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by endgame

mazda rx-7 & rx-9 in the works - worldcarfans

hmmmm... Does the z have anything to worry about with a 2012 rx7 that has a 270 hp, 200 pound feet, 2650 pound, dual clutch tranny when it comes to the track??

Hp
370z: 332
2012 rx7: 270 (est)

torque
370z: 270
2012 rx7: 200 (est)

weight
370z: 3320
2012 rx7: 2650 (est)

transmission
370z: 7at / rev matching 6mt
2012 rx7: 6 speed dct

Supergoji · 02-14-2009, 11:27 PM

what they need to do is boost the damn engine.

Lug · 02-15-2009, 03:50 AM

If they can hold to that curb weight, it will be a serious competitor.

Crash · 02-15-2009, 04:07 AM

I don't think they'll be able to. Safety guild lines alone will bump that weight up 400-500 Lbs. After the safety commissions get their hands on it, they'll either add weight or they won't pass it.

02-14-2009, 06:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	2012 Mazda RX7? Mazda RX-7 & RX-9 in the Works - worldcarfans Hmmmm... Does the Z have anything to worry about with a 2012 RX7 that has a 270 HP, 200 Pound Feet, 2650 pound, dual clutch tranny when it comes to the track?? HP 370Z: 332 2012 RX7: 270 (est) Torque 370Z: 270 2012 RX7: 200 (est) Weight 370Z: 3320 2012 RX7: 2650 (est) Transmission 370Z: 7AT / Rev Matching 6MT 2012 RX7: 6 speed DCT

02-14-2009, 06:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
FairmanZ Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paradise Posts: 133 Drives: Z34 future owner Rep Power: 16	2012 is a long ways off and in this crappy economy, time will only tell if it makes it into production. But as a former original FD owner, a new RX-7 is something that I'd welcome. I have my doubts about whether Mazda can make it that light and if the 16x rotary will really deliver the power needed to compete with the Z. If Mazda is able to pull it off and wrap it in a super sexy shape like my old FD, it will certainly peak my interest. Last edited by FairmanZ; 02-14-2009 at 06:20 PM.

02-14-2009, 08:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	I doubt we'll see this. But I must say that the rendering they have is very ugly and not RX-7ish at all. I'd imagine a 3-rotor motor would be good, but I doubt they'd ever do that again. I don't know anything about the 16x, but I'm going to assume it's 2 rotors. I'd like to see a rotary miata, to be honest. Smaller more powerful motor in that car would be sweet. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

02-14-2009, 09:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
BanningZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: nowhere Posts: 5,478 Drives: 06' Nismo Frontier Rep Power: 29	That rendering looks like someone sat on an R8. I'd be happy with a new RX-7 but I don't see it as realistic, especially not if its going to look like that. __________________ Become a Premium Member: Click HERE MB 06' Nismo VQ40DE

02-15-2009, 03:50 AM	#14 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 19	If they can hold to that curb weight, it will be a serious competitor. __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

02-14-2009, 06:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	True about 2012 being a ways off. I am surprised this is still on the shelf at Mazda. They have been testing the 16x and talking about this for two years already. Well, it if makes it, at least they would have had y e a r s of R&D. My brother in law works at a Mazda dealership and they had a mule RX8 with the 16x in it; we think. He will not 'confirm or deny'.

02-14-2009, 08:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
JeepGuy Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 14 Drives: Wrangler Rubicon Unl Rep Power: 16	I know it would be sacrilege, but I'd love it if Mazda put the 2.4L turbo from the speed3 and 6 into the rx-8 body, a little more boost and it would put down the hp and tq figures needed to make the rx-8 a world class car. Keep the light weight, keep the great chassis, but the current engine has been considered under powered for what, 8 years now??

02-14-2009, 09:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
blue660r01 Guest Posts: n/a	I like the 93+ RX7 body more still. It doesnt look dated to me so I think they should bring it back and forget that new one.

02-14-2009, 09:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
sunkist350z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Z-land Posts: 1,009 Drives: 2012 370z sport 6-sp Rep Power: 55341	As a former FD owner I would love to see a the real rx version of the sports car..not the rx8.

02-14-2009, 10:04 PM	#11 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	I have a RX8 and would LOVE to see a real rotary sports car!

02-14-2009, 11:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
Supergoji Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Westchester NY Age: 36 Posts: 311 Drives: Z32tt / Supra tt Rep Power: 256	what they need to do is boost the damn engine.

02-15-2009, 04:07 AM	#15 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	I don't think they'll be able to. Safety guild lines alone will bump that weight up 400-500 Lbs. After the safety commissions get their hands on it, they'll either add weight or they won't pass it. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

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