Blasphemy!

4r3s · 03-31-2010, 07:43 PM

MT, so played out even lambos dont have them anymore. Pretty crazy stuff right there.

Lamborghini Giving The Boot To Manual Transmissions? - MotorAuthority

03-31-2010, 07:50 PM

I dont see an issue with this

theDreamer · 03-31-2010, 07:55 PM

It is bound to happen. I think Ferrari said that on one of their cars in 2009 only 2-3% are sold in manuals so they dropped it from many of their cars.
I like manual still, but having not driven one of these cars with a very high quality paddle system I cannot comment on which I truly enjoy more.

G37Sam · 03-31-2010, 08:07 PM

I'd definitely take an MT over an AT had it been available on our G's, a double clutch gearbox though like that on the Ferrari is just too good a bargain to pass on

The sound generated from the 60ms fuel cut during shifts is a symphony on its own to start with

4r3s · 03-31-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam

I'd definitely take an MT over an AT had it been available on our G's, a double clutch gearbox though like that on the Ferrari is just too good a bargain to pass on

The sound generated from the 60ms fuel cut during shifts is a symphony on its own to start with

yeah but they made it sound like a double clutch isnt going to happed either.

"However, don’t expect advanced dual clutch transmissions to replace Lamborghini’s e-gear sequential automatic anytime soon. Reggiani pointed out that Lamborghini’s six-speed box is around 50 pounds lighter than a dual clutch unit and the automaker is opposed to unequal gear steps, as is the case with most seven-speed transmissions."

antman22 · 03-31-2010, 08:35 PM

these car companies make cars for performance, whatever gets them from point a to point b faster. AT's and DCT's have proven faster than MT's, so it only makes sense. Yes, the nostalgia of MT's is awesome, but when you're in a company that has to perform, you'll ditch the MT to shave a few tenths off that clock.

FuszNissan · 03-31-2010, 08:48 PM

With Dual clutch transmissions and paddel shifting, I don't see an issue either. It was only a matter of time until manual will be the thing of the past.

fullmonty · 03-31-2010, 08:52 PM

Cool now maybe people will give more credit to an automatic sports car

PapoZalsa · 03-31-2010, 10:11 PM

I just hate to see the AT stick on a sport car! The car will look better if they elimante the stick like Ferrari did.

frost · 03-31-2010, 10:13 PM

posted this in the :gasp: manual versus auto thread.

NewlyIMPORTed · 03-31-2010, 10:13 PM

i always wondered what it would be like to have a paddle shifter with a clutch the shifts would be faster but you would still have the joy that an MT has hmm

fullmonty · 03-31-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NewlyIMPORTed

i always wondered what it would be like to have a paddle shifter with a clutch the shifts would be faster but you would still have the joy that an MT has hmm

I'd like it

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-31-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by antman22

these car companies make cars for performance, whatever gets them from point a to point b faster. AT's and DCT's have proven faster than MT's, so it only makes sense. Yes, the nostalgia of MT's is awesome, but when you're in a company that has to perform, you'll ditch the MT to shave a few tenths off that clock.

+1
Well said. Nostalgia rules manuals. Performance rules autos.

Pharmacist · 03-31-2010, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

I dont see an issue with this

how observant! first it was ferrari to phase out manual gearboxes, now lamborghini is joining them. soon, audi will do the same to the r8. bmw will also phase out the manual gearbox in favor of the dual clutch transmission. and then porsche will have the pdk standard on all their cars. aston has already semi-eliminated the manual from their models. mercedes hasn't offered them in years on their sporty cars. a whole bunch of supposedly sporty supposedly driver oriented cars that drive themselves via a computer chip. when it's all said and done if you want to shift your own gears the only way to do that will be to drive a commercial truck. who knows, maybe they too will get dual clutch gearboxes

yeah, no issue at all.

i would personally rather have the pleasure of shifting my own gears even if it means an extra few milliseconds around a track. not like i'm fighting for the F1 championship and every millisecond off the laptime is crucial.

lambo

ferrari

Pharmacist · 03-31-2010, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

+1
Well said. Nostalgia rules manuals. Performance rules autos.

actually the performance difference is not that great. a good driver with a manual gearbox shouldn't lag behind an automated gearbox by more than 1 second per lap or even less. unless you are a race car driver fighting for the championship, a fraction of a second per lap will not be significant.

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