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4r3s 03-31-2010 06:43 PM

Blasphemy!
 
MT, so played out even lambos dont have them anymore. Pretty crazy stuff right there.

Lamborghini Giving The Boot To Manual Transmissions? - MotorAuthority

blue660r01 03-31-2010 06:50 PM

I dont see an issue with this

theDreamer 03-31-2010 06:55 PM

It is bound to happen. I think Ferrari said that on one of their cars in 2009 only 2-3% are sold in manuals so they dropped it from many of their cars.
I like manual still, but having not driven one of these cars with a very high quality paddle system I cannot comment on which I truly enjoy more.

G37Sam 03-31-2010 07:07 PM

I'd definitely take an MT over an AT had it been available on our G's, a double clutch gearbox though like that on the Ferrari is just too good a bargain to pass on

The sound generated from the 60ms fuel cut during shifts is a symphony on its own to start with

4r3s 03-31-2010 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 475242)
I'd definitely take an MT over an AT had it been available on our G's, a double clutch gearbox though like that on the Ferrari is just too good a bargain to pass on

The sound generated from the 60ms fuel cut during shifts is a symphony on its own to start with

yeah but they made it sound like a double clutch isnt going to happed either.

"However, don’t expect advanced dual clutch transmissions to replace Lamborghini’s e-gear sequential automatic anytime soon. Reggiani pointed out that Lamborghini’s six-speed box is around 50 pounds lighter than a dual clutch unit and the automaker is opposed to unequal gear steps, as is the case with most seven-speed transmissions."

antman22 03-31-2010 07:35 PM

these car companies make cars for performance, whatever gets them from point a to point b faster. AT's and DCT's have proven faster than MT's, so it only makes sense. Yes, the nostalgia of MT's is awesome, but when you're in a company that has to perform, you'll ditch the MT to shave a few tenths off that clock.

FuszNissan 03-31-2010 07:48 PM

With Dual clutch transmissions and paddel shifting, I don't see an issue either. It was only a matter of time until manual will be the thing of the past.

fullmonty 03-31-2010 07:52 PM

Cool now maybe people will give more credit to an automatic sports car

PapoZalsa 03-31-2010 09:11 PM

I just hate to see the AT stick on a sport car! The car will look better if they elimante the stick like Ferrari did.

frost 03-31-2010 09:13 PM

posted this in the :gasp: manual versus auto thread.

NewlyIMPORTed 03-31-2010 09:13 PM

i always wondered what it would be like to have a paddle shifter with a clutch the shifts would be faster but you would still have the joy that an MT has hmm

fullmonty 03-31-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NewlyIMPORTed (Post 475510)
i always wondered what it would be like to have a paddle shifter with a clutch the shifts would be faster but you would still have the joy that an MT has hmm

I'd like it

UNKNOWN_370 03-31-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by antman22 (Post 475275)
these car companies make cars for performance, whatever gets them from point a to point b faster. AT's and DCT's have proven faster than MT's, so it only makes sense. Yes, the nostalgia of MT's is awesome, but when you're in a company that has to perform, you'll ditch the MT to shave a few tenths off that clock.

+1
Well said. Nostalgia rules manuals. Performance rules autos.

Pharmacist 03-31-2010 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01 (Post 475219)
I dont see an issue with this

how observant! first it was ferrari to phase out manual gearboxes, now lamborghini is joining them. soon, audi will do the same to the r8. bmw will also phase out the manual gearbox in favor of the dual clutch transmission. and then porsche will have the pdk standard on all their cars. aston has already semi-eliminated the manual from their models. mercedes hasn't offered them in years on their sporty cars. a whole bunch of supposedly sporty supposedly driver oriented cars that drive themselves via a computer chip. when it's all said and done if you want to shift your own gears the only way to do that will be to drive a commercial truck. who knows, maybe they too will get dual clutch gearboxes :ughdance: yeah, no issue at all. :rolleyes:

i would personally rather have the pleasure of shifting my own gears even if it means an extra few milliseconds around a track. not like i'm fighting for the F1 championship and every millisecond off the laptime is crucial.

lambo :thumbsdown: ferrari :thumbsdown:

Pharmacist 03-31-2010 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 475666)
+1
Well said. Nostalgia rules manuals. Performance rules autos.

actually the performance difference is not that great. a good driver with a manual gearbox shouldn't lag behind an automated gearbox by more than 1 second per lap or even less. unless you are a race car driver fighting for the championship, a fraction of a second per lap will not be significant.


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