Blasphemy!

fullmonty · 03-31-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

not sure what you mean that i do it a lot. i have a stick shift, so yeah, i shift gears a lot while driving. yes, things change, but not always for the better. this trend towards automated gearboxes is absolutely pointless and unnecessary. no one who buys these cars goes on to compete in le mans or touring car championships. so it's really not that critical to save those few milliseconds per lap by having an auto transmission. perhaps if ferrari and lambo owners take advanced driving courses, that would shorten their lap times much more than an electronic gearbox. besides, why not simply have both transmissions as options so that people can choose what they like? even if 5% of buyers want a manual tranmission, just make 5% of the cars witha stick shift and everyone goes home happy. no need for the stick shift to join the dinosaurs.

Allow me to assume that when you say these cars you are talking sports cars in general and not just the 370Z, because allot of these sports cars are designed to compete in Le Mans and various other motorsports events. It is simply not practical for a manufacturer to design both a manual and automatic transmission for the sale car. Particularly if one is substandard. Automatic transmissions are obviously capable and are proving to be an all around better transmission. I don't understand why you are so change adverse.

370Zsteve · 03-31-2010, 10:45 PM

From what I've read, manuals will be around for awhile. I'm unconcerned, and if they do disappear, then I'll just refurb my Z when the time comes. They'll take my manual from my cold, dead hands!

Pharmacist · 03-31-2010, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fullmonty

Allow me to assume that when you say these cars you are talking sports cars in general and not just the 370Z, because allot of these sports cars are designed to compete in Le Mans and various other motorsports events. It is simply not practical for a manufacturer to design both a manual and automatic transmission for the sale car. Particularly if one is substandard. Automatic transmissions are obviously capable and are proving to be an all around better transmission. I don't understand why you are so change adverse.

what i meant was the people who buy them, the corporate executives, actors, rappers, etc.... don't go race in their ferrari enzo or lamborghini gallardo, so the slightly added performance is not that relevant. yes i see your point that it may be impractical and expensive to make two transmissions for the same model. on the other hand, the manual transmission is such a basic mechanical device that is incredibly simple, cheap, and easy to manufacture. so it really shouldn't add too much overhead costs to the car company.

03-31-2010, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

what i meant was the people who buy them, the corporate executives, actors, rappers, etc.... don't go race in their ferrari enzo or lamborghini gallardo, so the slightly added performance is not that relevant.

So you're saying there are no enthusiasts and no people who track their Lambo? That its just rappers and actors that run them? IDK about by you man but by me there are TONS of people who track their Lambos here

370Zsteve · 03-31-2010, 10:55 PM

Pharmacist · 03-31-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

So you're saying there are no enthusiasts and no people who track their Lambo? That its just rappers and actors that run them? IDK about by you man but by me there are TONS of people who track their Lambos here

i don't know percentage wise the ratio between posers and enthusiasts among supercar buyers, but still a large chunk of supercar sales go to rich people who store those cars in garages and basically use them as status symbols

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