Z vs Supra

FL 4Motion · 08-25-2021, 06:38 AM

Certain makes have “reputations” some earned, some not regarding reliability, cost of maintenance etc. most of these opinions are usually based on outdated data.

For example, Honda and Toyota are super reliable. Was true compared to all other makes 20-30+ years ago, today they’re still riding that positive stereotype to the bank but it’s not true and hasn’t been for a couple decades now.

Another one, Audis are unreliable and expensive money pits. True-ish in the past (pre 2014), but like dlstr stated, if you are a educated consumer, then you should know your expected running costs going in. Today tho, Audi is a very reliable make, personal experience with three different ones in our family going back to 2014. Zero major, moderate issues. And only a couple extremely minor issues.

One last one, Jeep, has a reputation for being pos vehicles. To be fair, they do deserve a lot of that from past issues. However, we’ve owned 4 wranglers over the past 20 years, 2 TJs, 1 JKUR, and one JLUR. Still have the JK and JL. Only the second TJ had issues, a paint issue and a recurring cowl leak, the other three were/are flawless. For a supposedly pos vehicle, that’s not bad eh?

Ferrari and Lamborghini are total shitboxes if you are planning on owning one and driving 10k plus per year, if they get to 100k miles that’s a miracle and running costs are through the roof.

Ask anyone who owns one if they’d rather have a z or corvette bc they’re more reliable and cheaper and see what happens. Those folks can afford the “cost of ownership”.

Umm, what were we talking about again?

Zingston · 08-25-2021, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Certain makes have “reputations” some earned, some not regarding reliability, cost of maintenance etc. most of these opinions are usually based on outdated data.

For example, Honda and Toyota are super reliable. Was true compared to all other makes 20-30+ years ago, today they’re still riding that positive stereotype to the bank but it’s not true and hasn’t been for a couple decades now.

Another one, Audis are unreliable and expensive money pits. True-ish in the past (pre 2014), but like dlstr stated, if you are a educated consumer, then you should know your expected running costs going in. Today tho, Audi is a very reliable make, personal experience with three different ones in our family going back to 2014. Zero major, moderate issues. And only a couple extremely minor issues.

One last one, Jeep, has a reputation for being pos vehicles. To be fair, they do deserve a lot of that from past issues. However, we’ve owned 4 wranglers over the past 20 years, 2 TJs, 1 JKUR, and one JLUR. Still have the JK and JL. Only the second TJ had issues, a paint issue and a recurring cowl leak, the other three were/are flawless. For a supposedly pos vehicle, that’s not bad eh?

Ferrari and Lamborghini are total shitboxes if you are planning on owning one and driving 10k plus per year, if they get to 100k miles that’s a miracle and running costs are through the roof.

Ask anyone who owns one if they’d rather have a z or corvette bc they’re more reliable and cheaper and see what happens. Those folks can afford the “cost of ownership”.

Umm, what were we talking about again?

Dude, I can't remember either...

*J*ap***V*et* · 08-25-2021, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zingston

Dude, I can't remember either...

Who knows anymore man lmao!! I was mostly kidding anyway but anyone with the ability to navigate Google can say that BMW just isn't what it used to be.

eastwest2300 · 12-17-2021, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by *J*ap***V*et*

Who knows anymore man lmao!! I was mostly kidding anyway but anyone with the ability to navigate Google can say that BMW just isn't what it used to be.

08-25-2021, 06:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
FL 4Motion A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 4,776 Drives: Baby Shark Rep Power: 701616	Certain makes have “reputations” some earned, some not regarding reliability, cost of maintenance etc. most of these opinions are usually based on outdated data. For example, Honda and Toyota are super reliable. Was true compared to all other makes 20-30+ years ago, today they’re still riding that positive stereotype to the bank but it’s not true and hasn’t been for a couple decades now. Another one, Audis are unreliable and expensive money pits. True-ish in the past (pre 2014), but like dlstr stated, if you are a educated consumer, then you should know your expected running costs going in. Today tho, Audi is a very reliable make, personal experience with three different ones in our family going back to 2014. Zero major, moderate issues. And only a couple extremely minor issues. One last one, Jeep, has a reputation for being pos vehicles. To be fair, they do deserve a lot of that from past issues. However, we’ve owned 4 wranglers over the past 20 years, 2 TJs, 1 JKUR, and one JLUR. Still have the JK and JL. Only the second TJ had issues, a paint issue and a recurring cowl leak, the other three were/are flawless. For a supposedly pos vehicle, that’s not bad eh? Ferrari and Lamborghini are total shitboxes if you are planning on owning one and driving 10k plus per year, if they get to 100k miles that’s a miracle and running costs are through the roof. Ask anyone who owns one if they’d rather have a z or corvette bc they’re more reliable and cheaper and see what happens. Those folks can afford the “cost of ownership”. Umm, what were we talking about again? eastwest2300, JARblue, sx moneypit and 2 others like this.

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