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Originally Posted by ZCanadian Toyota definitely gets forgiven a lot. They have had their share of issues - from the sudden acceleration/stuck pedal issues, to the airbag (not their fault)

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Old 05-25-2020, 03:30 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Toyota definitely gets forgiven a lot.
They have had their share of issues - from the sudden acceleration/stuck pedal issues, to the airbag (not their fault) recalls, to seatbelt issues. One of the biggies right now is every Tacoma (that hash!t been stolen by terrorists) made from 2011 to 2017 is being recalled to examine whether the frame is rusting through. I’ve been at my local dealership and have seen a couple on hoists, getting a full skeleton replacement.

I have to give them credit for addressing this, unlike Nissan which would just flip the middle finger in typical half-French fashion and turn away.

But that is hardly “getting it right the first time”. Rust is not a new phenomenon, nor is building around it particularly high tech or an unknown science.

And if anyone is pointing at Toyota for selling 10-year-old platforms, what forum is this again? ;-)
Tacomas, 3rd, 4th, and even the current 5th gen 4runners suffer the frame rusting from the inside out excessively issue. Also, the control arm mounting points rust and fail prematurely as well. There are recalls on the older tacos, but they shy away from acknowledging the 4Runner frame rust issues. At least on the 5th gens. I think they might’ve stepped up for the fourth gens

Toyota apparently cannot make a fully boxed steel ladder frame correctly to save their life.

The current tacoma v6 engine/6at is apparently a huge fail as well, tried to get more fuel efficient than the old 4.0 v6/5at (that’s still used in current 4Runner), but ended up with a turd that needs a regear from stock 4.10s with 32’s to 5.13’s just to run 33’s adequately and a lot of folks even regear a stock tired truck bc it sucks so bad.

Even tho I’m a Jeep guy, it does bum me out bc there are almost no real suvs left except the wrangler and the 4Runner and the yota already half sucks due to the ifs but at least it still retains the sra and a real transfer case, body on rusty frame etc.

The Xterra was a good rig, very underrated, the first gen was actually the perfect size and more off-road oriented, the second gen went a bit into the soccer mom appeal to much, or at least tried to.
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