2020 Toyota Camry TRD

POS VETT

I would have picked the KIA Stinger GT instead, at least it's not a Failed Wheel Drive

Zoren 370

Kia Stinger and the Camry TRD

Are no apples to apples comparison.

But I would hate be found dead driving a Kia.

Dont get me wrong They are nice cars with great reviews but not for 45K to 50K price point.

I’ll get kia Soul for less 10k used... and beat it till it screams
Banzai!!!

POS VETT

They're comparable as mid-size sedans (Stinger is actually a 5-door hatchback). Priced roughly the same after discount (got my '18 GT RWD with a discount of 23% MSRP). I can't do FWD (and most AWD) anymore, it pisses me off.

The only downfall with Stinger is its own brand, most people are like you when it comes to Stinger. If you ever read about the people behind Stinger development and if you ever drove one, you might understand why I have said that it's a German car.

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I highly doubt you got your 18 Stinger at 31K out the door!

If you did...that proves my point Kia would never keep a dime of their resale value. Thats why people dont like them specially to people who change cars every 2-3 years.

Hey I wouldn't argue with your last statement Kia hired the top designers and engineers of BMW to design the Stinger! Thats a fact. I dont need to drive ...I know its one of the best performing cars out there.

But for Kia to give you a 23% off msrp pre pandemic situation? I’ll be concerned.

But if you value your investment ( hard earned money)would you put your money on a Rolex or a Seiko watch?

Its not I hate the Kia brand..,Like I said Im actually considering of buying my daughter a kia Soul or mini cooper for less than 10K.

But I wouldn’t invest my 50K on a Kia stinger! Unless you plan to keep it till the life of the car..then you did hit Gold!

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Toyota/Lexus lives and breathes with the Japanese word “Kaizen”

Means continuously improving or perfecting.

There mantra in the car industry you do it right the first time... that was the mistake of Kia....now they try to redeem themselves buy hiring the top German designers and engineers.

Toyota never did that or the Japanese in general they hated foreign intervention thus Carlos Ghon is ousted. But that is Nissan.

My point reputation and brand loyalty is very big in the car industry.
Toyota was even actually forgiven by the Americans and stuck with the brand even after the pedal sticking issue.

People still buy Toyota....that is deep powerful Brand name!

If only VW hasn’t bought Porsche and Audi....Toyota is still # 1 in the word. Now they are 2nd to VW.

For how long I dont know...

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For FLmotion

A snippet of my other piss colored viagra pill...just to water down the confusion.


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The GT is a base car... starts at 40k. Right now no one is holding residual value cuz covid is destroying the car industry.
I test drove the kia stinger. Only the giulia feels better behind the wheel. Though its slower. Reliability iissues are not prevalent anymore in the brand. And Toyota being recall kings for nearly 15 yrs. Its kinda hard to call any car absolutely reliable. All brands have quirks these days.

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