Now in a Stingray, Z end of an Era

RN SHARK

ImportConvert has been balls out crazy for his little CX-5 on the forums recently. Let him have his time. Though he must think he is on a Mazda forum or something. I don’t know. Oh, and yeah, 250hp with AWD, that is about 170hp with AWD drivetrain loss. Cheers!

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mikeb

Lol. Can a CX-5 traverse a pothole, expansion joint, railtrack, etc better than a Z. Yep, it probably could.

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Rusty

A CX-5 is a different critter then a Z. Comparing the 2 is just fvcking stupid.

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Rusty

He misses us. But doesn't have a Z to talk about. So he wants to talk about his CX-5. And no one really cares. He has detoured 2 threads here so far.

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ImportConvert

Not trolling as hard as Nissan was when they set up that suspension. Bouncy bouncy.

Seriously though, you guys are trying to compare 370z to Camaro and Mustang, and that makes even less sense. 80hp gap between my cx5 and your Z, and my cx5 has 40# more torque than your Z. Camaro has what, 118hp more than your Z? Yet you compare...and then we have people comparing a Z to corvette handling...even more ludicrous. Ive owned a Z, a Z06, and 2 CX5s. Go drive them all. Get back to us.

Im just commenting on suspension though. The cx5 gtr is much more composed than the 370z in the corners, etc. if any ireegularities exist. Its just a better balanced suspension regwrding rebound control. No amount of driver mod can overcome the fact that when you hit an expansion joint, the rear end is going to dance sideways in the corners, etc or when you encounter dips at speed, its going to break traction. It can only help in dealing with those foibles. Foibles unique in my driving experience to the 370z, compared to the other cars mentioned.

Seems that Im not the only one who notices the finer nuances of suspensions...
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...nissan-370z-2/
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...omaniac-14710/

https://autoweek.com/article/car-rev...g-review-notes

Pretty much mirroring what I've said all along...

FPenvy

well then if you're serious.......

i'll address your comments in order.

the Z is comparable to mustang and camaro regards of HP gap due to the fact it can handle quite well. i have played around against both cars and the Z holds up well to the point depending on launch i've kept up to and/or beat a new 5.0 mustang.....in mexico of course.

as for the suspension, what was wrong with your Z that you experience was that bad? also what is your age? seems to be weak, whiny, older guys who say the ride and suspension sucks and buy soccer mom SUVs. although i know multiple distinguished older owners in here who roll on full race setups like gangsters.

i'm pushed my Z on stock suspension/brakes very hard and it feels great. the one failing part i've experienced was rolling a tire sidewall. those tires got switched at the end of that season.

and yea i'm sure an MX5 feels more composed when you can't get it past 80mph.

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ImportConvert

Lol, I never said it was fast. Just composed. Its around 200whp, btw :P

Mainly, Im stoked over the level of OEM polish the thing has, not its raw numbers. Something the Z crowd can surely relate to with a 100hp deficit to every other car in the 370s segment...?

ImportConvert

I was in my late 20s when I had my 370z, and part of my observation comes from that I went from a c6 z06 with a much more buttoned down suspension to the Z. My sole complaint about the Z was that it was oversprung and underdamped for any environment with ripples or bumps or anything. Even Spring Mountain would be annoying with the dip on the back curves with with poor rebound control.

I find the flaw amusing and even more offputting, considering even my CUVs dont share it.

FPenvy

i dont like this tactic switch to flattery.........


regardless the comparison of an MX5 and Z is just ridiculous. obviously some soccer move SUV is gonna be "composed". it's not a sports car its meant to keep someones wife comfortable with a turbo 4 banger that she may never get into boost with.

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ImportConvert

Boost off idle bro...310# torque by 2k rpm :P

Anyway, no, its simply better composed. Same corners, same speeds, no sideways stepout like the 370z.


Speaking of absurd comparisons, this all started because you all were absurd enougb to compare this 370z with a c6 corvette, even saying "it drove like crap"... An even larger performance gap than my cx5 to your 370z...would be that c6 vs. the 370z. Huge gap.

FPenvy

whoa now. reading comprehension needs to gain some attribute points.....i did not mention a vette once so far. got the wrong guy.


i mean i can if you want......like the OP wasted money buying a base model when everyone knows the Z51 is really the only choice if not buying GS/Z06/ZR1.......

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ImportConvert

I said "you all". Should have said "some of you". My point was, the comparison absurdity wasnt began by ME.

FPenvy

Z vs CX5 - absurd

Z vs camaro/mustang - normal

Z vs Vette - absurd

the enjoyment i get from fuckin with everyone on the forum - normal

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mikeb

Several forum members have done just that; they've have driven vettes, caymans, stangs, and all other beasts. I know because I read thru those opinions closely before I purchased my 2015. Now that I've owned the car for over yr I agree with the majority. My Z suspension feels well damped, however our roads a decent and my Z is low mileage and in great condition. My take away from your experience is that perhaps the 2012 had dampening issues or *your* particular car had issues. Perhaps your road are really that bad or maybe Nissan sorted things out in later models. Either way, you are swimming upstream on this forum

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ImportConvert

They changed shocks and struts in 2013. I will never own another Nissan again, so I cant comment on the effect of that change.