2019 Veloster N

Firebase99 · 02-21-2019, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

That's really Kool. I think it's a nice car. Beautiful steering wheel and seats. Hyundai is showing some balls. The coupe is next from Hyundai... Hoping so. I can't wait... Even if I don't buy a Hyundai in my future? I'm just happy they're trying to show love to the enthusiast market. Their rate of evolution is legendary. Go Hyundai!!

Im waiting for the next coupe too. I hope they get something public soon. Rumors are the 3.3 turbo is going in with AT least 400hp. We shall see.

ZCanadian · 02-20-2019, 11:40 AM

Yeah, haters gonna hate. Especially on Hyundai, and especially on Veloster.

Anecdotal experiences aside, there are lots of reports on new vehicle reliability that put the Korean twins in the top 10. The problem is that most of those look at the number of customer complaints per thousand cars sold. And they relate to a region (and often, cars are made for a region, even at different assembly plants with different parts and some suppliers). They don't weigh 99 fit-and-finish defects any differently from 99 bad engines. In other words, they aren't perfect either, but most sure seem to shine a good light on the Koreans.

Camaro and Mustang have issues too. Not that they are bad cars, though. Focus RS, which is more in line with the Veloster N, has certainly had its share of nightmares.

Keep in mind, it has a 5 year, 60,000 mile powertrain warranty (with roadside assistance).
If she is pining for a Veloster, then by all reports the "N" is the one to get if you can justify the $.
Or a 370Z!!! ;-)

Zingston · 02-20-2019, 12:12 PM

Keep in mind, it has a 5 year, 60,000 mile powertrain warranty (with roadside assistance).
If she is pining for a Veloster, then by all reports the "N" is the one to get if you can justify the $.
Or a 370Z!!! ;-)[/QUOTE]

Yep, so much Vehicular Hate these days!

My experience with the Kia warranty was great... my mother's Kia Optima that is. She had a couple of little issues over the period she owned that car and Kia fixed them no problem. Just sayin...

Chuck33079 · 02-21-2019, 06:28 AM

I don't understand the hate on the Korean cars. My wife had a Kia Spectra that she beat the hell out of for 90k miles, and then gave it to her dad for another 75k miles. It's been flooded twice. Everything still works. I haven't had to replace anything too out of the ordinary on it beyond scheduled maintenance. It's not a good car, but it's a solid car especially considering how cheap they are.

That being said, every time I turned a wrench on it I marvelled at how many corners they cut to keep it cheap. If Honda used a stud, Kia uses a bolt. If Toyota uses two bolts, Kia used one. If Nissan used one bolt, Kia used a plastic clip. It was DOHC, but there was only one cam gear. It was magnificent how Bare Minimum the whole car is.

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-22-2019, 02:28 PM

I purchased American. And for the first time in 3 decades. I'm not ashamed I did.

Hotrodz · 02-22-2019, 06:46 PM

The owner of Precision Garage in Las Vegas bought an R spec for his wife and he is tracking it and loves the car. He has a few videos on YouTube. All he has done is change the exhaust and it is fast out the box. I have been following them in PWC and they kick everyone's butt with the N. They are running the VN in the IMSA Continental series. Yeah Hyundai is for real! You don't build a test facility at the N Ring just for chit and giggles!

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UNKNOWN_370 · 02-23-2019, 08:42 AM

I just wanna say. I support any manufacturer. Foreign or domestic who will uphold the enthusiast market and the gas engine. Manuals and DCT's. Love me and I'll love you back. Nissan Chevy Kia ... I don't give a f as long as U support the

Hotrodz · 02-23-2019, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I just wanna say. I support any manufacturer. Foreign or domestic who will uphold the enthusiast market and the gas engine. Manuals and DCT's. Love me and I'll love you back. Nissan Chevy Kia ... I don't give a f as long as U support the

Agreed!!!

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Zoren 370 · 02-28-2019, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I just wanna say. I support any manufacturer. Foreign or domestic who will uphold the enthusiast market and the gas engine. Manuals and DCT's. Love me and I'll love you back. Nissan Chevy Kia ... I don't give a f as long as U support the

Buy Corvette and Porsche their support for racing is impeccable!
Nissan??? ...I start to question them now...9 years still no new Z...hmm.. they rather sell Sentras to the market. Money comes first...bad business model for an enthusiast!

ZCanadian · 02-28-2019, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370

Buy Corvette and Porsche their support for racing is impeccable!
Nissan??? ...I start to question them now...9 years still no new Z...hmm.. they rather sell Sentras to the market. Money comes first...bad business model for an enthusiast!

"Not making money" is a better business model?

Porsche is an SUV company - more than 50% sales come from Macan/Cayenne. To me, this is a GOOD thing, because it allows them money to build the 911 without just re-badging VW / Audi parts and changing the body panels up.

Although I agree it would be nice to see a new Z. But naturally aspirated, with an available manual transmission and at a reasonable price. For the expected sales volumes such a car would generate, it's not very likely.

Current Z is still a good alternative in its market. Could use a refresh, and more torque. Maybe a weight-loss diet. But it does look unique and good, and performs pretty much as it says on the tin.

Zoren 370 · 02-28-2019, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

"Not making money" is a better business model?

Who said that statement of yours? As far as I know its you..not me...
Porsche is a SUV company? Hmm..

Where you born in the 80’s? Then I understand you.

The reason why Nissan dropped the Z project is because the sports car market are for select few or nitch market there is no money into it.

Thus 9 going 10 years no new Z!

Toyota would not even spend millions of dollars to properly R&D a new supra legendary engine because its not worth the investment and returns is very little or none.

What Im saying..the two brands I mentioned the Corvette and Porsche 911 even these cars are not the revenue flagship of the company they still infuse money through thier racing program to keep the small select race car enthusiasts alive.

Thus I for one a company that loves a sports car enthusiast and supports racing is a plus in my record books.
A company with racing program that is passionate with racing they dont talk about profits they are more concerned about the prestige of winning.

Thats all...has nothing to do with your Porsche SUV lol. If you have one.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-01-2019, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370

Buy Corvette and Porsche their support for racing is impeccable!
Nissan??? ...I start to question them now...9 years still no new Z...hmm.. they rather sell Sentras to the market. Money comes first...bad business model for an enthusiast!

Actually in model years we are 10 years in. It's sad. The amount of updates have been vague for the amount of time. But it could be worse. There could be no 370z. I feel more comfortable knowing they haven't fully given up even though their effort are total crap. GEEZ.

But I totally feel your sentiment.

Zingston · 03-01-2019, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Actually in model years we are 10 years in. It's sad. The amount of updates have been vague for the amount of time. But it could be worse. There could be no 370z. I feel more comfortable knowing they haven't fully given up even though their effort are total crap. GEEZ.

But I totally feel your sentiment.

Even ten years in without an update, I think I'd probably still buy another Z if I were just looking at the value proposition. Hard to beat what it offers at that price vs the competition.

And yes, no Z would be so much worse!

Zoren 370 · 03-01-2019, 01:35 PM

You see even our moderators and AK has abandoned this forum as Nissan has no further plans of keeping the Z heritage alive.

To them they already given us a Z car to enjoy!

Who know they might follow Toyota to design a new car and get an engine from Renult!

Yayks!! A french bulldog crossed with a sushi salmon!

sx moneypit · 03-01-2019, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zingston

Even ten years in without an update, I think I'd probably still buy another Z if I were just looking at the value proposition. Hard to beat what it offers at that price vs the competition.

And yes, no Z would be so much worse!

02-20-2019, 11:40 AM	#2 (permalink)
ZCanadian A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 1,061 Drives: 2013 370Z Rep Power: 60274	Yeah, haters gonna hate. Especially on Hyundai, and especially on Veloster. Anecdotal experiences aside, there are lots of reports on new vehicle reliability that put the Korean twins in the top 10. The problem is that most of those look at the number of customer complaints per thousand cars sold. And they relate to a region (and often, cars are made for a region, even at different assembly plants with different parts and some suppliers). They don't weigh 99 fit-and-finish defects any differently from 99 bad engines. In other words, they aren't perfect either, but most sure seem to shine a good light on the Koreans. Camaro and Mustang have issues too. Not that they are bad cars, though. Focus RS, which is more in line with the Veloster N, has certainly had its share of nightmares. Keep in mind, it has a 5 year, 60,000 mile powertrain warranty (with roadside assistance). If she is pining for a Veloster, then by all reports the "N" is the one to get if you can justify the $. Or a 370Z!!! ;-) UNKNOWN_370, Firebase99, wideglideleon and 1 others like this.

02-20-2019, 12:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
Zingston A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 4,028 Drives: like it's a rental. Rep Power: 2684370	Keep in mind, it has a 5 year, 60,000 mile powertrain warranty (with roadside assistance). If she is pining for a Veloster, then by all reports the "N" is the one to get if you can justify the $. Or a 370Z!!! ;-)[/QUOTE] Yep, so much Vehicular Hate these days! My experience with the Kia warranty was great... my mother's Kia Optima that is. She had a couple of little issues over the period she owned that car and Kia fixed them no problem. Just sayin... UNKNOWN_370, Firebase99, ZCanadian and 1 others like this.

02-21-2019, 06:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	I don't understand the hate on the Korean cars. My wife had a Kia Spectra that she beat the hell out of for 90k miles, and then gave it to her dad for another 75k miles. It's been flooded twice. Everything still works. I haven't had to replace anything too out of the ordinary on it beyond scheduled maintenance. It's not a good car, but it's a solid car especially considering how cheap they are. That being said, every time I turned a wrench on it I marvelled at how many corners they cut to keep it cheap. If Honda used a stud, Kia uses a bolt. If Toyota uses two bolts, Kia used one. If Nissan used one bolt, Kia used a plastic clip. It was DOHC, but there was only one cam gear. It was magnificent how Bare Minimum the whole car is. UNKNOWN_370, Firebase99 and Jap**Vet* like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

02-22-2019, 02:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	I purchased American. And for the first time in 3 decades. I'm not ashamed I did. Zoren 370 likes this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

02-22-2019, 06:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	The owner of Precision Garage in Las Vegas bought an R spec for his wife and he is tracking it and loves the car. He has a few videos on YouTube. All he has done is change the exhaust and it is fast out the box. I have been following them in PWC and they kick everyone's butt with the N. They are running the VN in the IMSA Continental series. Yeah Hyundai is for real! You don't build a test facility at the N Ring just for chit and giggles! Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Rusty, Zoren 370, Firebase99 and 1 others like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

02-23-2019, 08:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	I just wanna say. I support any manufacturer. Foreign or domestic who will uphold the enthusiast market and the gas engine. Manuals and DCT's. Love me and I'll love you back. Nissan Chevy Kia ... I don't give a f as long as U support the JARblue, Hotrodz, Firebase99 and 2 others like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

03-01-2019, 01:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
Zoren 370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL Posts: 11,018 Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 1913654	You see even our moderators and AK has abandoned this forum as Nissan has no further plans of keeping the Z heritage alive. To them they already given us a Z car to enjoy! Who know they might follow Toyota to design a new car and get an engine from Renult! Yayks!! A french bulldog crossed with a sushi salmon!

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