2020 Supra... first thoughts

Falconquey

That's a lot of questionable "ifs" from which to draw such a conclusion. My question is why add mt to a platform that is already seeing declining sales numbers yoy AND is scheduled to die in a few model years? The Corvette offered first dagger, and the upcoming Z will provide the kill shot. The Supra honeymoon, brief as it was, has clearly past.

eastwest2300

yeah dude, i've always had manual transmissions in my all the cars I've ever owned up until now with the Supra. Supposedly (and this is strictly rumor) in 2023 there's supposed to be a manual Supra. I guess we'll see.

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eastwest2300

Its funny how some folk talk about declining numbers year over year.. Like the Supra has been out since 2009, and really the only upgrades since 2009 has basically been slight bumper upgrades/LEDs/ and some stickers... talk about declining numbers.

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Falconquey

Wow, you're such a simple idiot!
Like you said, the numbers don't lie... Now do your research and tell me the monthly sales numbers aren't down drastically "YOY" starting in August '21.

Hint: since you'll obviously need help seeking the truth, start with goodcarbadcar.net

Hotrodz

I am not a Supra fan per say but I do have some experience with it. Regardless of published sales number we see more and more of them at the track each weekend. They are a very capable car to on the track. They are fast and handle as well or better than most production two seaters in their class.

The GR 86 will be the end of the Supra because of price point and its capabilities. It will also impact the sales of the Z.

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DLSTR

November 228. Year are 6,347 / total = 15,118.

https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/toyota...sales-figures/

NecioVato

I get numbers ultimately will tell the story if a car is kept in the Automaker's lineup; but...the low numbers don't dictate if a car is a good car. I mean, when I look at the Supra - I see a nice looking 2 seater (might be too small for me - 6ft tall) with a good amount of support in the aftermarket. I do think the Z will cut into new sales IF the Z doesn't go crazy with ADM being added to it.

I know it's not fair to compare the 2 - but wasn't the Z's numbers plummeting quite abit - I know that was due to the design not really changing and a 2009 was basically the same car as the 2020 so why buy new; but still - I feel numbers for sports cars - especially for 2 seaters ultimately don't do well after the initial rush to buy bc its NOT practical and they are typically pretty expensive so the target audience - those in their 20s can't afford it; hence why I see why the new BRZ/GR86 will do well with that crowd.

DLSTR

Chip and supply shortage would not help any model for overall sales. Makers are making MORE money on less supply. The dream of any factory lol

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babyzilla

For all the rumors about the supra and a manual option...

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/t...ission-option/

I'll be honest, I hated the new supra when it first came out for so many reasons. I'll be the first to admit it has grown on me and the fact that it's coming with a manual definitely stirs the pot with the new Z IMO. Now, I'm sticking with my 370 and going to continue to modify and enjoy it. The car prices are just ridiculous these days. However, I'm just glad the MT is living on and there are options out there.

DrBacon

I like the new Supra but I really believe it was hyped up more than it's actually worth. You go to car meets and the vast majority of the Supra owners are middle aged guys driving bone stock cars that they probably use to drive to the grocery store on the weekends, far from people I would consider actual car enthusiasts. I'm quite sure most of them own one simply for the name "I own a supra".

DLSTR

Does one need to mod to be enthusiast. I think not. My M2 stayed completely factory. Still never failed to bring a smile to my face when used appropriately. Lets give people a break until we talk with them.

Stock or not the Supra is an interesting and capable car overall. If one mod's it good, if not good. Drive and enjoy.

Spooler

Do you guys know how many 300zxTT's there were in the 90's. Not that many. The Supra Turbo cars were even less. They both were rare finds. The older folks can afford them now and they are buying them because they were way out of their price range in the 90's. It's all good. Car meets, I rarely go to them. LOL

SeeThruHead

This could just be misinterpretation of the GRMN version which will be manual, but incredibly limited and possible Japan only (not sure about that)

Also there are rumours floating around that there may not be that many more years of this car in production.

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babyzilla

That's a fair point. Somewhat unrelated to your point, I think my biggest gripe with the car is that, to me, it pays no homage to the supra. They could've named it anything else lol the 4cl variant would have been a great brz/gt86 successor.