2020 Supra... first thoughts

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-19-2019, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR

We can hope Toyota has the influence on anciliary items as you post above. Both my M235i and M2 have not been an issue and used daily. Reliable in the strict sense!

How many miles on the M2?

370zBoyz · 10-30-2019, 03:17 PM

i would get rid of my nismo for the supra but no money

i always though the supra resembled the 2015+ nismo but it actually has real power and a nice stock exhaust

regardless i like my Z and will keep it till the wheels fall off

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-31-2019, 05:04 PM

Lightly used supra for sale. $167,000. I hate greedy dealers. Fvck them!!

https://www.motor1.com/news/379687/t...markup-167000/

Firebase99 · 10-31-2019, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Lightly used supra for sale. $167,000. I hate greedy dealers. Fvck them!!

https://www.motor1.com/news/379687/t...markup-167000/

Who TF would pay $167K for a Supra?????????? REALLY??

Rusty · 10-31-2019, 08:16 PM

They're out of their fking minds.

Ventruck · 11-10-2019, 01:27 AM

I'd totally be a sucker for this. Dream C8 turned into dream C8 Z06, and no idea how long out that's gonna be, so could very well imagine I could save and throw money elsewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqMbVcJx6TM

*AND SOME VENTS ARE REAL. but lol they literally had to cut the door and made some super tight routing. I'm sure some air is better than none, but I have a hard time imagining that's really living up to a properly-engineered flow/cooling setup.
(8:35)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zH0qzHdW9I

DLSTR · 11-21-2019, 12:23 AM

https://jalopnik.com/you-dont-need-t...000-1839960281

Hotrodz · 11-21-2019, 09:36 AM

I spent this past weekend participating in AZ NASA track days. Toyota had a both there and have partnered with NASA to showcase the Supra. Saturday was a media day for invited guests and Sunday they provided rides for those that were lucky enough to get signed up. I was number 1 on the list as I got to the track on Friday to off load my car.

I spent time speaking with one the reps and who also tracks the car. He let me set in the car and asked my about my impressions. I told him the car looks much better in person than in pictures and video. The cockpit is exceptional and driver inspiring. The visibility is as with most all sports cars. The front view is very good and the side mirrors are highly functional. The rearview view sucks! The car size is as described by some...a larger version of Toyota 86.

I was only in the car for three laps and the first lap was a warm up lap as the tires were cold as was the track. The driver was a former IMSA and World Challenge driver. The car performs as per all the hype. It is fast and nimble. It is torquey and gets the power to the ground effectively. The car was very stable through all the twisty parts. The car I was in had upgraded brakes, rotors and tires.

My final thoughts: The car performs as advertised and is the best of both worlds as a track car and daily driver. If you are over six foot you will need to watch your head getting in and out of the car. I am 6'1" and had difficulty getting into the car with my helmet on. I had to adjust the seat to lean back a bit to give me head clearance. I like the car but it does not excite me. I find it's styling as it seems soulless to me. Just my opinion as I know others love it. I think it is already on it's way to being the next s2000 but even more so to those who are not track rats and want a cheaper comfortable two seater.

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DLSTR · 11-21-2019, 07:49 PM

Nice review above^^^ - I find driving a car will bring out distinct feelings not found as passenger or outside, not in the car observer. The woman is pushing me to test it when we can - together

Im glad she likes cars!

Hotrodz · 11-21-2019, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DLSTR

Nice review above^^^ - I find driving a car will bring out distinct feelings not found as passenger or outside, not in the car observer. The woman is pushing me to test it when we can - together

Im glad she likes cars!

Right on...thanks and I agree. Maybe my opinion would be different if I had a chance to drive it. I think as a daily it would be awesome all things considered. I watched a review by Savage Geese and it is pretty much spot on.

Ventruck · 11-24-2019, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Right on...thanks and I agree. Maybe my opinion would be different if I had a chance to drive it. I think as a daily it would be awesome all things considered. I watched a review by Savage Geese and it is pretty much spot on.

I was thinking Savagegeese was going to hate the thing because more times than not he rides the negatives of any car quite a lot. He's probably got the best review on the car so far imo, especially since he's revisited it.

Major holdbacks against my interest is there's still some inflation/mark-up, and I can just tell local Supra owners probably think they're cooler than they are (just like 86 owners once did). It's petty, I do get mindful of car communities.

Cyber370 · 11-27-2019, 09:28 AM

It’s amazing how quickly the BMW Supra has become irrelevant and/or just OK. Since the Corvette C8 is coming, that means you can now get new discounted/slightly used C7’s for the price (or less) of a new Supra. I mean, there’s just no comparison. I’d take C7 over a Supra without even blinking.
Don’t know but seems to me that Toyota could’ve hit it out of the ballpark but all they did is made a better BRZ/86. Too little, too late IMHO.

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ZCanadian · 11-27-2019, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyber370

It’s amazing how quickly the BMW Supra has become irrelevant and/or just OK. Since the Corvette C8 is coming, that means you can now get new discounted/slightly used C7’s for the price (or less) of a new Supra. I mean, there’s just no comparison. I’d take C7 over a Supra without even blinking.
Don’t know but seems to me that Toyota could’ve hit it out of the ballpark but all they did is made a better BRZ/86. Too little, too late IMHO.

Which is probably one of the reasons Nissan has not introduced a successor to the 370Z. They are kind of "damned if you do, damned if you don't". It still sells practically as well as a new one would (give or take the initial blip on release), without the risk of creating something that people will find polarizing, or hitting the market at exactly the wrong time after all the reinvestment for R&D and re-tooling.

Hotrodz · 11-27-2019, 03:08 PM

If Nissan can keep the price point on the Z to less than $50k and it have 400 hp they would be in the sweet spot.

UNKNOWN_370 · 11-27-2019, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

If Nissan can keep the price point on the Z to less than $50k and it have 400 hp they would be in the sweet spot.

40k would be ideal.

10-31-2019, 05:04 PM	#453 (permalink)
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11-10-2019, 01:27 AM	#456 (permalink)
Ventruck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: California Posts: 785 Drives: '13 Sport+Touring M6 Rep Power: 22898	I'd totally be a sucker for this. Dream C8 turned into dream C8 Z06, and no idea how long out that's gonna be, so could very well imagine I could save and throw money elsewhere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqMbVcJx6TM AND SOME VENTS ARE REAL. but lol they literally had to cut the door and made some super tight routing. I'm sure some air is better than none, but I have a hard time imagining that's really living up to a properly-engineered flow/cooling setup. (8:35) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zH0qzHdW9I Last edited by Ventruck; 11-10-2019 at 01:30 AM.*

11-21-2019, 09:36 AM	#458 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	I spent this past weekend participating in AZ NASA track days. Toyota had a both there and have partnered with NASA to showcase the Supra. Saturday was a media day for invited guests and Sunday they provided rides for those that were lucky enough to get signed up. I was number 1 on the list as I got to the track on Friday to off load my car. I spent time speaking with one the reps and who also tracks the car. He let me set in the car and asked my about my impressions. I told him the car looks much better in person than in pictures and video. The cockpit is exceptional and driver inspiring. The visibility is as with most all sports cars. The front view is very good and the side mirrors are highly functional. The rearview view sucks! The car size is as described by some...a larger version of Toyota 86. I was only in the car for three laps and the first lap was a warm up lap as the tires were cold as was the track. The driver was a former IMSA and World Challenge driver. The car performs as per all the hype. It is fast and nimble. It is torquey and gets the power to the ground effectively. The car was very stable through all the twisty parts. The car I was in had upgraded brakes, rotors and tires. My final thoughts: The car performs as advertised and is the best of both worlds as a track car and daily driver. If you are over six foot you will need to watch your head getting in and out of the car. I am 6'1" and had difficulty getting into the car with my helmet on. I had to adjust the seat to lean back a bit to give me head clearance. I like the car but it does not excite me. I find it's styling as it seems soulless to me. Just my opinion as I know others love it. I think it is already on it's way to being the next s2000 but even more so to those who are not track rats and want a cheaper comfortable two seater. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk FL 4Motion, God-Speed, JARblue and 11 others like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

11-21-2019, 07:49 PM	#459 (permalink)
DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21267	Nice review above^^^ - I find driving a car will bring out distinct feelings not found as passenger or outside, not in the car observer. The woman is pushing me to test it when we can - together Im glad she likes cars! Hotrodz and ZCanadian like this.

10-30-2019, 03:17 PM	#452 (permalink)
370zBoyz Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Driver seat Posts: 207 Drives: Nismo Rep Power: 7214	i would get rid of my nismo for the supra but no money i always though the supra resembled the 2015+ nismo but it actually has real power and a nice stock exhaust regardless i like my Z and will keep it till the wheels fall off

11-21-2019, 12:23 AM	#457 (permalink)
DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21267	https://jalopnik.com/you-dont-need-t...000-1839960281

11-27-2019, 09:28 AM	#462 (permalink)
Cyber370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 679 Drives: 2016 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 19372	2020 Supra... first thoughts It’s amazing how quickly the BMW Supra has become irrelevant and/or just OK. Since the Corvette C8 is coming, that means you can now get new discounted/slightly used C7’s for the price (or less) of a new Supra. I mean, there’s just no comparison. I’d take C7 over a Supra without even blinking. Don’t know but seems to me that Toyota could’ve hit it out of the ballpark but all they did is made a better BRZ/86. Too little, too late IMHO. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rusty, Hotrodz, ZCanadian and 1 others like this. __________________ "That’s when you know you’ve found somebody special. When you can just shut the fck up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence.”-Mia (Pulp Fiction)* Last edited by Cyber370; 11-27-2019 at 09:35 AM.

11-27-2019, 03:08 PM	#464 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	If Nissan can keep the price point on the Z to less than $50k and it have 400 hp they would be in the sweet spot. FL 4Motion, UNKNOWN_370, God-Speed and 1 others like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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