2020 Supra... first thoughts

BlackZeda · 01-26-2019, 04:39 AM

According to some of the opinions on this thread a Formula 1 car isn't a "race car" because their transmissions never disengage power from the engine to the rest of the drivetrain and the drivers attempt to deliver power to the road in the smooth, efficient manner. Only NASCAR or other stock cars with the built-in driver-assisted self-destruction and skill-proving devices called a clutch are "race cars".

I have seen the Alfa Romeo 4C mentioned...It uses a DCT, so not a sports car?

Am I getting this right?

I ask the question between a DCT vs ZF because the Supra is not offered in a manual. When I learned that it was using a ZF I don't see this as a disappointment as I was very impressed at the smooth delivery of power to the road making the M240i very quick and fun to drive.

In my opinion the Supra is a sports car, and if one were to use it as a daily driver I see the ZF transmission as a great compromise making it something that will be very effective if one were to bring it to the track occasionally.

I have modified my Z to the point where it is annoying and obnoxious when driven in traffic, but otherwise a pure pleasure to drive when not boxed in by a bunch lame sedans. Luckily I get to keep it and am looking at a sporty coupe that is only offered in a ZF transmission due to the need for AWD.

DLSTR · 01-26-2019, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

According to some of the opinions on this thread a Formula 1 car isn't a "race car" because their transmissions never disengage power from the engine to the rest of the drivetrain and the drivers attempt to deliver power to the road in the smooth, efficient manner. Only NASCAR or other stock cars with the built-in driver-assisted self-destruction and skill-proving devices called a clutch are "race cars".

I have seen the Alfa Romeo 4C mentioned...It uses a DCT, so not a sports car?

Am I getting this right?

I ask the question between a DCT vs ZF because the Supra is not offered in a manual. When I learned that it was using a ZF I don't see this as a disappointment as I was very impressed at the smooth delivery of power to the road making the M240i very quick and fun to drive.

In my opinion the Supra is a sports car, and if one were to use it as a daily driver I see the ZF transmission as a great compromise making it something that will be very effective if one were to bring it to the track occasionally.

I have modified my Z to the point where it is annoying and obnoxious when driven in traffic, but otherwise a pure pleasure to drive when not boxed in by a bunch lame sedans. Luckily I get to keep it and am looking at a sporty coupe that is only offered in a ZF transmission due to the need for AWD.

I daily a BMW M2. Sportscar. DCT. I can manual shift. I drive a sportscar

To work, to the gym, to the store or to simply drive. Its a car - you drive it. If you are happy with your car - that is all that matters in life. So personal it is.

BlackZeda · 02-01-2019, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLSTR

I daily a BMW M2. Sportscar. DCT. I can manual shift. I drive a sportscar

To work, to the gym, to the store or to simply drive. Its a car - you drive it. If you are happy with your car - that is all that matters in life. So personal it is.

I have driven cars with paddle shifters, but they weren't the performance type by any means. During the test drive of the M240i xDrive I switched to manual mode which intrigued me. Is driving the M2 DCT in manual mode fun in a different way than a 3 pedal?

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01-26-2019, 04:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	According to some of the opinions on this thread a Formula 1 car isn't a "race car" because their transmissions never disengage power from the engine to the rest of the drivetrain and the drivers attempt to deliver power to the road in the smooth, efficient manner. Only NASCAR or other stock cars with the built-in driver-assisted self-destruction and skill-proving devices called a clutch are "race cars". I have seen the Alfa Romeo 4C mentioned...It uses a DCT, so not a sports car? Am I getting this right? I ask the question between a DCT vs ZF because the Supra is not offered in a manual. When I learned that it was using a ZF I don't see this as a disappointment as I was very impressed at the smooth delivery of power to the road making the M240i very quick and fun to drive. In my opinion the Supra is a sports car, and if one were to use it as a daily driver I see the ZF transmission as a great compromise making it something that will be very effective if one were to bring it to the track occasionally. I have modified my Z to the point where it is annoying and obnoxious when driven in traffic, but otherwise a pure pleasure to drive when not boxed in by a bunch lame sedans. Luckily I get to keep it and am looking at a sporty coupe that is only offered in a ZF transmission due to the need for AWD.