2020 Supra... first thoughts

ZCanadian · 01-18-2019, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan 1771

Imagine if the next Gen Z has an Acura engine and mirrors one of their cars. How would that be received by the car community, and more specifically by the individuals in this forum? Not well I presume. This is exactly what happened with the new Supra.

It just seems to me Toyota didn't take this very seriously. Why not build an all original body and use a high performance engine from Lexus? That would have made a lot more sense to me.

Agree - you'd think that the RC-F platform would be the perfect place to go to in order to find the drive train.

I get that this car is not going to be a mass market beast and that finding economies of scale is the only way it could be built. But looking in-house would surely be cheaper, offer the most control of the product and process, and be a nod to the ability of Toyota/Lexus engineering. As far as the actual manufacturing is concerned, modern flex lines should have allowed low volume production of the Supra at an existing Toyota facility, surely. And Lexus couldn't have made it any uglier! :-D Toyota already had the fairly well received FT-1 concept to work off of.

On another note, anyone see the new 2020 RC-F "Track Edition" also released at Detroit this week? For the price of about 2 new Supra's you could get from 0-60 in 0.2 seconds faster. Hmmmm.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-19-2019, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lvcky69

I really dont care about the price. Toyota dropped the ball when they didn't make the supra manual. That's why a lot of ppl are upset. A 50k car with only 335hp and not only that, it is auto, shoot, might as well save up some more and get yourself an m4 or the new audi rs5 or even the z06. I'm just happy that companies like Porsche, BMW and Chevy are still making their sports car manual.

Toyot a is waiting for consumer response to see if they will add a manual. My gut tells me a manual will come by its refresh.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-19-2019, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan 1771

Imagine if the next Gen Z has an Acura engine and mirrors one of their cars. How would that be received by the car community, and more specifically by the individuals in this forum? Not well I presume. This is exactly what happened with the new Supra.

It just seems to me Toyota didn't take this very seriously. Why not build an all original body and use a high performance engine from Lexus? That would have made a lot more sense to me.

Companies are part sharing due to cost of Sports car R&D. I'm sure if this version replace all? The next gen will be a more toyota focused vehicle.
One of the rumors for the next gen Z is that it may be powered by Mercedes?
The vr30dett came out but the next Z may have a 4 banger base model by Benz. This is what the globalized market is doing. Not saying I like that...
Remember that the Supras b4 the MK4 were designed by lotus. So maybe the next gen Supra will have a 3jz...

I try to think positive in the sense that. Everyone is abandoning sports cars or is scared to excel in the sports Arena, like Nissan. At least Toyota got some balls back. Cuz they were What Nissan is now just a few short tears ago.

I'm just waiting for a review n hopefully a test drive before I have a full on opinion. I know that BMW 8 speed is extremely fast n smooth. I'm just hoping toyota tuning will give the 3.0L engine more sports car grunt.

Like everyone else though. A 3JZ woulda been nuts. Here's hoping for a next gen 3jz.

Zoren 370 · 01-19-2019, 08:06 AM

Ugly period!!!

Look what they did with the new Tundra!!

17568640-1496-45AC-9047-988967C86975.jpeg

Spartan 1771 · 01-19-2019, 10:06 AM

Where is TuRD though all this? Like the majority of consumers, I'm assuming they were too busy moding one of their SUVs to be bothered with the revival of Toyota's most successful sports car in the company's history.

ZCanadian · 01-19-2019, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Spartan 1771

Where is TuRD though all this? Like the majority of consumers, I'm assuming they were too busy moding one of their SUVs to be bothered with the revival of Toyota's most successful sports car in the company's history.

Don’t hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

Yeah, I suspect that the dealerships will be loaded with TRD accessories before the car even gets there. And there is probably a TRD “performance edition” in the works for the moment the demand for the initial release wanes.

Toyota isn’t one to miss a trick in that respect.

NecioVato · 01-19-2019, 12:11 PM

I wonder what the 'market adjusted rate' will be for this car. We all know while the price says $50k - it will be much much higher - hell, you can't even get a Civic Type-R for MSRP and it's been out for 2-3yrs now.

After seeing the car on Youtube - personally if I could afford one at $50k - I probably would consider it; with the turbo - it will be able to be tuned to produce more HP and while the looks are polarizing - I think it looks pretty cool overall. The interesting thing will be - will dealers even let you test drive it - something tells me no. That the 'test drive' will be after you sign your name on the dotted line to purchase one.

I am curious to see what the tuner crowd will do with this car as well as getting some real world reviews off of youtube. This also makes me excited to see what the next Z will look like - whenever that is.

Spartan 1771 · 01-19-2019, 12:16 PM

I think you're right. We wont see one of these for anywhere near $50k for a long time.

trbo1007 · 01-19-2019, 12:30 PM

When this thing hits the ground at the local dealer, I’m going to wander over for sh..ts and giggles to see how far they are going to bend the customer over to get behind the wheel.

CRiZO · 01-19-2019, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan 1771

Where is TuRD though all this? Like the majority of consumers, I'm assuming they were too busy moding one of their SUVs to be bothered with the revival of Toyota's most successful sports car in the company's history.

It's technically a GR (Gazoo Racing) Supra I think? Not sure if there can even be a TRD? Though I imagine there will be plenty of accessories. TRD has gone the way of BMW M.

sunkist350z · 01-19-2019, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Toyot a is waiting for consumer response to see if they will add a manual. My gut tells me a manual will come by its refresh.

Then I will be waiting, hopefully the z35 will even be a concept version by then..

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-19-2019, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan 1771

Where is TuRD though all this? Like the majority of consumers, I'm assuming they were too busy moding one of their SUVs to be bothered with the revival of Toyota's most successful sports car in the company's history.

Ha... You might enjoy this article. This guy says the Supra should've been an SUV. LOL

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...suv-crossover/

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-19-2019, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z

Then I will be waiting, hopefully the z35 will even be a concept version by then..

You may be a old man by then.

sunkist350z · 01-19-2019, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

You may be a old man by then.

I am already old and my hairs have been getting gray waiting for the new z car to arrive lol

old guy · 01-19-2019, 05:21 PM

I saw that today at Barrett Jackson they are auctioning off vin# 00001 which is a one of one in matt grey and signed by Mr. Toyota with some other exclusive stuff for charity

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Spartan 1771 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,280 Drives: Wife crazy & 09 370Z Rep Power: 105454	Where is TuRD though all this? Like the majority of consumers, I'm assuming they were too busy moding one of their SUVs to be bothered with the revival of Toyota's most successful sports car in the company's history. ZCanadian likes this. __________________ ~Rob -DD Air Guide, Stillen G3 CAIs, 63mm Throttle Bodies, Motordyne M370, Berk HFCs, FI TDX CBE (non-res, CF), Sprint booster v3, Ecutek Dyno Tuned, and the list goes on...

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NecioVato Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 321 Drives: 2017 Black Nismo Z Rep Power: 19787	I wonder what the 'market adjusted rate' will be for this car. We all know while the price says $50k - it will be much much higher - hell, you can't even get a Civic Type-R for MSRP and it's been out for 2-3yrs now. After seeing the car on Youtube - personally if I could afford one at $50k - I probably would consider it; with the turbo - it will be able to be tuned to produce more HP and while the looks are polarizing - I think it looks pretty cool overall. The interesting thing will be - will dealers even let you test drive it - something tells me no. That the 'test drive' will be after you sign your name on the dotted line to purchase one. I am curious to see what the tuner crowd will do with this car as well as getting some real world reviews off of youtube. This also makes me excited to see what the next Z will look like - whenever that is. Spartan 1771 likes this.

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Spartan 1771 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,280 Drives: Wife crazy & 09 370Z Rep Power: 105454	I think you're right. We wont see one of these for anywhere near $50k for a long time. __________________ ~Rob -DD Air Guide, Stillen G3 CAIs, 63mm Throttle Bodies, Motordyne M370, Berk HFCs, FI TDX CBE (non-res, CF), Sprint booster v3, Ecutek Dyno Tuned, and the list goes on... Last edited by Spartan 1771; 01-19-2019 at 12:20 PM.

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trbo1007 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Upstate, SC Posts: 85 Drives: 18 370Z SpTh PW M6 Rep Power: 29	When this thing hits the ground at the local dealer, I’m going to wander over for sh..ts and giggles to see how far they are going to bend the customer over to get behind the wheel. Spartan 1771 likes this.

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