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God-Speed 01-15-2019 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 3815769)
It just makes no sense why their halo car got a motor from a bmw that's moderate power and from a company that makes unreliable engines...

Imagine Nissan having the next GTR using a Mercedes engine...

Honestly most of us will change our mind once we see some stances and boosted up the wazoo but without a manual and going in with a bmw engine the stacks against Toyota...

Proof is in the pudding, a manual is inevitable to follow if it doesnt flop.

:iagree::iagree:

Cory Gillmore 01-15-2019 10:38 PM

People talking about the price is too much when it's 50k...it's about the same as a new Nismo, it's faster and basically better in every way except looks, which is subjective. I mean obviously this forum is going to have some bias but let's not be here delusional people...I'm actually amazed that these start at 50k. No one expected these to start at 50k.

Quicksilvers 01-15-2019 11:12 PM

I think the 2020 Toyota Supra is definitely a good idea for Toyota to produce as it will be a long time coming. This new BMW engine will not be the most reliable engine like the original 2JZ engine. Also from what I found out it will be priced higher than the average consumer can afford at just under 60K. We will just have to wait and see what Toyota really decides to enveil in 2020??

UNKNOWN_370 01-15-2019 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory Gillmore (Post 3815832)
People talking about the price is too much when it's 50k...it's about the same as a new Nismo, it's faster and basically better in every way except looks, which is subjective. I mean obviously this forum is going to have some bias but let's not be here delusional people...I'm actually amazed that these start at 50k. No one expected these to start at 50k.

Agreed... The hate is real. I think it looks sharp. I just need a review from a trusted reporter and a test drive to feel anything more than it's looks.

Im praying this car will push Nissan to build a Z very soon?

Here's an article of the differences between the Z4 n Supra.

https://jalopnik-com.cdn.ampproject....upr-1831780403

UNKNOWN_370 01-15-2019 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 3815769)
It just makes no sense why their halo car got a motor from a bmw that's moderate power and from a company that makes unreliable engines...

Imagine Nissan having the next GTR using a Mercedes engine...

Honestly most of us will change our mind once we see some stances and boosted up the wazoo but without a manual and going in with a bmw engine the stacks against Toyota...

Proof is in the pudding, a manual is inevitable to follow if it doesnt flop.

To my understanding. Benz engines are solid. BMW engines are good. The problems with these cars are overengineered electronic systems that make them unreliable. Which is very expensive to fix. Toyota with minimized electronics and its own tune should keep this carvreliable.

Cyber370 01-16-2019 05:13 AM

BMW anything is a deal breaker for me. If I wanted a BMW, I’d buy a BMW! I hate when manufacturers buy platforms and just slap on redesigned sheet metal and call it their own. This has never been a successful option for any car maker in the past. It will be interesting to see what happens here.


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Zingston 01-16-2019 06:44 AM

More on the 4 cylinder Supra:

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201.../#more-1656568

Volk Z 01-16-2019 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3815844)
To my understanding. Benz engines are solid. BMW engines are good. The problems with these cars are overengineered electronic systems that make them unreliable. Which is very expensive to fix. Toyota with minimized electronics and its own tune should keep this carvreliable.

You missed my point my friend. I'm saying why would you reproduce your halo car and not have your engine in it. The GTR and Supra are not famous and feared because they look sexy... they were feared for the power and reliability of the rb26 and 2jz.

I've been tracking the ft1 supra for years. If I knew it was going to have a crappy bmw engine I wouldnt have even thought twice. Mercedes engines may be a step up from bmw for reliability BUT that's missing the point.

eZg 01-16-2019 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3815888)

Sports car enthusiasts have been waiting more than 20 years for the return of Supra and will soon be able to purchase the 2020 Toyota GR Supra for a Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price of $49,990.

well the GR is a Turbo inline 6 at $49K. Guess the 4's will be less. I'm going to be pissed if this is a bait and switch. Just like Porsche going to Turbo 4 @ $70K-$100K. Forget that crap

eZg 01-16-2019 08:32 AM

more info from press release


https://toyotanews.pressroom.toyota....90+dollars.htm

Zingston 01-16-2019 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eZg (Post 3815903)
Sports car enthusiasts have been waiting more than 20 years for the return of Supra and will soon be able to purchase the 2020 Toyota GR Supra for a Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price of $49,990.

well the GR is a Turbo inline 6 at $49K. Guess the 4's will be less. I'm going to be pissed if this is a bait and switch. Just like Porsche going to Turbo 4 @ $70K-$100K. Forget that crap



Ha ha! I agree... a 4 banger Porsche for 70k + is a load of horse sh** at best!

Lvcky69 01-16-2019 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory Gillmore (Post 3815832)
People talking about the price is too much when it's 50k...it's about the same as a new Nismo, it's faster and basically better in every way except looks, which is subjective. I mean obviously this forum is going to have some bias but let's not be here delusional people...I'm actually amazed that these start at 50k. No one expected these to start at 50k.

I really dont care about the price. Toyota dropped the ball when they didn't make the supra manual. That's why a lot of ppl are upset. A 50k car with only 335hp and not only that, it is auto, shoot, might as well save up some more and get yourself an m4 or the new audi rs5 or even the z06. I'm just happy that companies like Porsche, BMW and Chevy are still making their sports car manual.

ColtronZ 01-16-2019 10:29 AM

I like it more in this than the pictures I must admit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka4Vo_ZvUaM

eZg 01-16-2019 10:42 AM

/\/\ agreed

JTM88 01-16-2019 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ColtronZ (Post 3815929)
I like it more in this than the pictures I must admit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka4Vo_ZvUaM

Damn it looks way better on video than in pictures.


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