C8 mid-engine corvette. GM loves their people.

SouthArk370Z · 08-27-2019, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

... F'm though. I am going to enjoy life.

F'm and feed 'em fish heads hooks.

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-27-2019, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

F'm and feed 'em fish heads hooks.

I'll drink to that!

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-03-2019, 09:56 AM

And the SICKNESS continues!!!

A 5.5 liter that's been rumored since the C7 was a concept car with a N/A V8 putting out 600hp/620tq and a twin turbocharged version putting out 850hp are set to debut for the C8 in 2020!!

https://www.thedrive.com/news/29629/...-8-with-850-hp

I guess they're working on beefing up the dual clutch for the latter engine? These numbers are crazy though. Chevy is really trying to not have ANY competition in this segment. Nuts!!!

Rusty · 09-03-2019, 10:29 AM

If this is true. This is going to pull sales away from other sports cars with the people who are on the fence on which car to get.

FPenvy · 09-03-2019, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

If this is true. This is going to pull sales away from other sports cars with the people who are on the fence on which car to get.

ummmm yes. i think i will be getting one when the twin turbo Z06 releases in 2022.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-03-2019, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

If this is true. This is going to pull sales away from other sports cars with the people who are on the fence on which car to get.

What I love about the C8 is they're gonna have to either put out super cars at corvette prices. So budget sports cars will have to be Cayman good.

I can foresee a toyota MR2 being something really special in the 40k range.

Rusty · 09-03-2019, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

What I love about the C8 is they're gonna have to either put out super cars at corvette prices. So budget sports cars will have to be Cayman good.

I can foresee a toyota MR2 being something really special in the 40k range.

The C8 might be the shock to the system that the sports car world needed. Super car performance at prices that are not out of reach. Now everyone has to step up their game.

FPenvy · 09-03-2019, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

The C8 might be the shock to the system that the sports car world needed. Super car performance at prices that are not out of reach. Now everyone has to step up their game.

sooooooooo basically the 2009 GT-R?

ZCanadian · 09-03-2019, 12:58 PM

Or, it's the last hurrah before everything goes plug-in.

(sorry to rain on this parade, but it's highly unlikely that there's a business model for multiple entries into the budget supercar class.

And having a prancing horse, rampaging bull, or crest from Stuttgart in the driveway is a status symbol. Dropping the price on those just to meet this challenge is not likely.

In the end, it's still a GM product, and will begin to fall apart at 35,000 miles. We'll see how the fit and finish is, and whether the first generation is worth the hype.

Honestly, I suspect that other competitors will simply leap-frog this with electric performance that they can carry on with in future models.

FPenvy · 09-03-2019, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Or, it's the last hurrah before everything goes plug-in.

(sorry to rain on this parade, but it's highly unlikely that there's a business model for multiple entries into the budget supercar class.

And having a prancing horse, rampaging bull, or crest from Stuttgart in the driveway is a status symbol. Dropping the price on those just to meet this challenge is not likely.

In the end, it's still a GM product, and will begin to fall apart at 35,000 miles. We'll see how the fit and finish is, and whether the first generation is worth the hype.

Honestly, I suspect that other competitors will simply leap-frog this with electric performance that they can carry on with in future models.

i'm still scratching my head over the non-matching side mirrors on the C8 lol

ZCanadian · 09-03-2019, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

i'm still scratching my head over the non-matching side mirrors on the C8 lol

One already fell off?

On the earlier post, I think that Cayman is dead anyway - there will be a few special editions, but I'm guessing that it will be replaced by the Taycan platform in various body forms.

What the C8 will really kill is the up-coming petrol lower end performance cars in the pipeline. I honestly doubt that Alfa and Maserati will bother with the 8C / Alfieri anymore. Perhaps full electric only.

So, although the C8 is a boon to part of the market, it is a double-edged sword to the industry as a whole. I'm OK with it, as long as GM does this car right. It truly is a paradigm shift. If they blow it, they have screwed up the entire market segment for nothing.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-03-2019, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Or, it's the last hurrah before everything goes plug-in.

(sorry to rain on this parade, but it's highly unlikely that there's a business model for multiple entries into the budget supercar class.

And having a prancing horse, rampaging bull, or crest from Stuttgart in the driveway is a status symbol. Dropping the price on those just to meet this challenge is not likely.

In the end, it's still a GM product, and will begin to fall apart at 35,000 miles. We'll see how the fit and finish is, and whether the first generation is worth the hype.

Honestly, I suspect that other competitors will simply leap-frog this with electric performance that they can carry on with in future models.

For one... Nobody expects the exotics to lower there prices. If that's how you interpreted the statement then you're pretty much in your own world of negativity trying to rain on a parade that wasnt scheduled to march on. At best, my train of thought was on the upcoming mazda coupe the upcoming MR2 and the possible upcoming Z/Q60 and next gen WRX.

Two... electric cars are inevitable. They're shoving them down our throats even though they dont even make 5% of car sales. And as much as sports car sales are declining. Theyre still selling 300% more sports cars than EV's.
As far as we know so far... most next gen sports cars will be mild hybrids at best... yes there are 2 or 3 electric sports cars destined to come out but none will be affordable.

As far as your GM comments that haven't held a whole lot of weight since 2005 with the exception of the volt which is cancelled.
As far as corvettes go. I see brand new looking C3, C4 and C5 vettes on city streets pretty much on the regular. And camaro 5's seem to be holding really well out in the meet's. Especially 1LE and Z/28 owners seem to have impeccable examples.

Haters gonna hate though.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-03-2019, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

One already fell off?

On the earlier post, I think that Cayman is dead anyway - there will be a few special editions, but I'm guessing that it will be replaced by the Taycan platform in various body forms.

What the C8 will really kill is the up-coming petrol lower end performance cars in the pipeline. I honestly doubt that Alfa and Maserati will bother with the 8C / Alfieri anymore. Perhaps full electric only.

So, although the C8 is a boon to part of the market, it is a double-edged sword to the industry as a whole. I'm OK with it, as long as GM does this car right. It truly is a paradigm shift. If they blow it, they have screwed up the entire market segment for nothing.

40 years of MR concepts. The 5.5litre was being tested back in 2012. I think nothing will go too terribly wrong.

They learned from the Z06 cooling fiasco. The C7's are price to performance leaders as they stand right now. The tech in the C8 exists in the c7. It's just packaged nicer. They've built production MR's before.
My only concern would be the DCT. and that 1000 location memory lift. Hopefully that will go well?

FPenvy · 09-03-2019, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

One already fell off?

On the earlier post, I think that Cayman is dead anyway - there will be a few special editions, but I'm guessing that it will be replaced by the Taycan platform in various body forms.

What the C8 will really kill is the up-coming petrol lower end performance cars in the pipeline. I honestly doubt that Alfa and Maserati will bother with the 8C / Alfieri anymore. Perhaps full electric only.

So, although the C8 is a boon to part of the market, it is a double-edged sword to the industry as a whole. I'm OK with it, as long as GM does this car right. It truly is a paradigm shift. If they blow it, they have screwed up the entire market segment for nothing.

the passenger mirror sticks out further than the driver side.

https://www.motor1.com/news/366898/c...-side-mirrors/

ZCanadian · 09-03-2019, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

What I love about the C8 is they're gonna have to either put out super cars at corvette prices. So budget sports cars will have to be Cayman good.

I can foresee a toyota MR2 being something really special in the 40k range.

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

For one... Nobody expects the exotics to lower there prices. If that's how you interpreted the statement then you're pretty much in your own world of negativity trying to rain on a parade that wasnt scheduled to march on. At best, my train of thought was on the upcoming mazda coupe the upcoming MR2 and the possible upcoming Z/Q60 and next gen WRX.

Two... electric cars are inevitable. They're shoving them down our throats even though they dont even make 5% of car sales. And as much as sports car sales are declining. Theyre still selling 300% more sports cars than EV's.
As far as we know so far... most next gen sports cars will be mild hybrids at best... yes there are 2 or 3 electric sports cars destined to come out but none will be affordable.

As far as your GM comments that haven't held a whole lot of weight since 2005 with the exception of the volt which is cancelled.
As far as corvettes go. I see brand new looking C3, C4 and C5 vettes on city streets pretty much on the regular. And camaro 5's seem to be holding really well out in the meet's. Especially 1LE and Z/28 owners seem to have impeccable examples.

Haters gonna hate though.

Yup, one of us has a problem with English. Or whatever is is you Americans speak down there.

26+ years experience as a manager of a 100+ vehicle fleet (and conversations with other fleet managers) is what I base my comments on. GM is forever giving more problems than the rest put together.

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	And the SICKNESS continues!!! A 5.5 liter that's been rumored since the C7 was a concept car with a N/A V8 putting out 600hp/620tq and a twin turbocharged version putting out 850hp are set to debut for the C8 in 2020!! https://www.thedrive.com/news/29629/...-8-with-850-hp I guess they're working on beefing up the dual clutch for the latter engine? These numbers are crazy though. Chevy is really trying to not have ANY competition in this segment. Nuts!!! Rusty and Spooler like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,187 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	If this is true. This is going to pull sales away from other sports cars with the people who are on the fence on which car to get. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

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ZCanadian A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 1,059 Drives: 2013 370Z Rep Power: 60273	Or, it's the last hurrah before everything goes plug-in. (sorry to rain on this parade, but it's highly unlikely that there's a business model for multiple entries into the budget supercar class. And having a prancing horse, rampaging bull, or crest from Stuttgart in the driveway is a status symbol. Dropping the price on those just to meet this challenge is not likely. In the end, it's still a GM product, and will begin to fall apart at 35,000 miles. We'll see how the fit and finish is, and whether the first generation is worth the hype. Honestly, I suspect that other competitors will simply leap-frog this with electric performance that they can carry on with in future models. FL 4Motion likes this.

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