C8 mid-engine corvette. GM loves their people.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-04-2019, 03:11 PM

The diffuser exposed out in the world. Looking good so far!!

https://www-motor1-com.cdn.ampprojec...-spy-photos%2F

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-10-2019, 09:04 AM

The tail azs end of the new corvette.

https://www-motor1-com.cdn.ampprojec...er-backside%2F

gomer_110 · 04-10-2019, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The tail azs end of the new corvette.

https://www-motor1-com.cdn.ampprojec...er-backside%2F

So part of the way down there is a link/image of a yellow C8. Of all the renderings and spy shots, the yellow C8 pictured looks identical to the C8 I spotted yesterday with its camo covers on in terms of body lines. Unfortunately I didn't have my phone handy to grab a pic, but I can tell you the C8 is as sexy as one would expect.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-11-2019, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

So part of the way down there is a link/image of a yellow C8. Of all the renderings and spy shots, the yellow C8 pictured looks identical to the C8 I spotted yesterday with its camo covers on in terms of body lines. Unfortunately I didn't have my phone handy to grab a pic, but I can tell you the C8 is as sexy as one would expect.

I'm not expecting anything less than amazing looking. The C6 and C7 are pretty hot when you chose gran sport and up. The minor attentions to detail in the grand sport just really accentuates the corvette on to a whole different level.

I'm wondering if the Camaro 7 will take on a more corvettish FR appearance by being even lower than it already is... 53" ride height. The lowest production muscle car right now which I'm sure is a major contributor to the Camaro's logic defying handling!!
Or will they extend the C7 corvettes life with a refresh while having the C8. Maybe changing its designation? Cuz there's are a new corvette mechanical air dam patent that seems to be designed for the current gen vette. Love that Chevy is doing big things with these two and handling numbers aren't just on paper. It shows at a majority of tracks. Somebody's gotta keep the performance market alive and affordable.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-11-2019, 08:49 PM

C8 DEBUTS 7/18/19

https://www-caranddriver-com.cdn.amp...firmed-2020%2F

gomer_110 · 04-11-2019, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I'm not expecting anything less than amazing looking. The C6 and C7 are pretty hot when you chose gran sport and up. The minor attentions to detail in the grand sport just really accentuates the corvette on to a whole different level.

I'm wondering if the Camaro 7 will take on a more corvettish FR appearance by being even lower than it already is... 53" ride height. The lowest production muscle car right now which I'm sure is a major contributor to the Camaro's logic defying handling!!
Or will they extend the C7 corvettes life with a refresh while having the C8. Maybe changing its designation? Cuz there's are a new corvette mechanical air dam patent that seems to be designed for the current gen vette. Love that Chevy is doing big things with these two and handling numbers aren't just on paper. It shows at a majority of tracks. Somebody's gotta keep the performance market alive and affordable.

I have serious concerns about that last part there. While I don't think it'll be true super car money, my bet is on pricing above past corvette pricing. For some reason, as soon as the engine goes behind the drive the price goes up a considerable amount.

Magic Bus · 04-11-2019, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

C8 DEBUTS 7/18/19

https://www-caranddriver-com.cdn.amp...firmed-2020%2F

Gonna be one fast sexy car

Too bad no manual trans

FPenvy · 04-12-2019, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

I have serious concerns about that last part there. While I don't think it'll be true super car money, my bet is on pricing above past corvette pricing. For some reason, as soon as the engine goes behind the drive the price goes up a considerable amount.

i mentioned it before on here that it will most likely be 60-65k for base model then add on to go up to Z51 and Z06.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-13-2019, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

I have serious concerns about that last part there. While I don't think it'll be true super car money, my bet is on pricing above past corvette pricing. For some reason, as soon as the engine goes behind the drive the price goes up a considerable amount.

Serious concerns? That sounds so stressful. Lol. The corvette will always be the Affordable Ferrari. That's what it is. Right now going FMR is taking it out of competing with California's and pushing it with Italia's. It's base pricing should b's around 70k for a base model. Now if your dreams are owning a ZR1? Well that will probably be about 30k more than the one now. But you're probably just looking at a $10k to 15k bump. Which is fair considering the layout and that it will probably crush a Cayman to shreds? Possibly?

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

i mentioned it before on here that it will most likely be 60-65k for base model then add on to go up to Z51 and Z06.

Yup... Im hearing 70k. But 60 to 70k is probably the safest bet as an entry.
For the power the LT1's are putting out now... I think that's more than fair with a 500hp LT2. And you'll have the next gen Camaro if the FR layout is still your cup of tea? I'm sure this will be like a Ferrari Italia for cayman prices. That's insane.

ZCanadian · 04-13-2019, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Serious concerns? That sounds so stressful. Lol. The corvette will always be the Affordable Ferrari. That's what it is. Right now going FMR is taking it out of competing with California's and pushing it with Italia's. It's base pricing should b's around 70k for a base model. Now if your dreams are owning a ZR1? Well that will probably be about 30k more than the one now. But you're probably just looking at a $10k to 15k bump. Which is fair considering the layout and that it will probably crush a Cayman to shreds? Possibly?

Yup... Im hearing 70k. But 60 to 70k is probably the safest bet as an entry.
For the power the LT1's are putting out now... I think that's more than fair with a 500hp LT2. And you'll have the next gen Camaro if the FR layout is still your cup of tea? I'm sure this will be like a Ferrari Italia for cayman prices. That's insane.

I think that mentioning Corvette and Ferrari in the same breath is ridiculous. A vette is a vette. And it”s a great car. The new one likely will be as well (although a lot of FR vette owners are going to buy one and kill it because then haven’t a clue about MR driving dynamics), but it is no Ferrari. It’s not a 911 either. It’s better than a Cayman, at Cayman prices and Chevy cost of ownership. Which is no small feat, and 50 years in the making. Only people who have never driven a Ferrari would make that comparison.

It will also have a mid-range interior, and start to fall apart like every other Chev does, at 50,000 miles. First the visor mirror cover will snap off. Then the seat motors and window regulator will die. Oh, and because it is a GM, it will lose a wheel bearing every 40K because that’s what you do when you are a GM. BTW, not saying that a Ferrari would fare any better in this respect - it likely wouldn’t although few ever see that kind of mileage.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-14-2019, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

I think that mentioning Corvette and Ferrari in the same breath is ridiculous. A vette is a vette. And it”s a great car. The new one likely will be as well (although a lot of FR vette owners are going to buy one and kill it because then haven’t a clue about MR driving dynamics), but it is no Ferrari. It’s not a 911 either. It’s better than a Cayman, at Cayman prices and Chevy cost of ownership. Which is no small feat, and 50 years in the making. Only people who have never driven a Ferrari would make that comparison.

It will also have a mid-range interior, and start to fall apart like every other Chev does, at 50,000 miles. First the visor mirror cover will snap off. Then the seat motors and window regulator will die. Oh, and because it is a GM, it will lose a wheel bearing every 40K because that’s what you do when you are a GM. BTW, not saying that a Ferrari would fare any better in this respect - it likely wouldn’t although few ever see that kind of mileage.

Well. Since the C4 came out. It was designed to be a bargain version of a Ferrari Daytona. That's why when that car came out. They made Ferrari conversion kits which were made popular in the Miami vice television show.
Now aesthetically... We know there's no true comparison from an average built production car to a handbuilt italian machine based on the quality and workmanship. But Chevy has done a few things that are fair enough to call it a poor man's Ferrari.

1. Corvettes have similar ride height
2. Corvettes near 200mph top speeds.
3. Corvettes get up to 1.2 lateral g's
4. Corvettes rival in width and weight.
5. Corvettes have run on the same race tracks as Ferrari's.

So I don't think it's as ridiculous as you say. Tell me another car riding around with a 200mph top speed with 1.2g and 650hp for $80,000? But I bet you can point me to a Ferrari lamb or McLaren.

As far as comparing cuz I've never driven one? Well I spent $1600 to drive 4 supercars. Ferrari being one of them. Nothing sounds or shifts like a Ferrari. A Ferrari is one of a kind. But a corvette can give you some of the experiences of owning a supercar. Despite its production idiosyncrocies and lower quality. Lastly. Car mags used to always do the comparo between the 2 cars in the 80s and 90s.

JARblue · 04-14-2019, 02:24 AM

I cross shop Ferrari and Corvettes all the time. They both fall into the same category for me: I can't afford a new one and don't want a used one lol

ImportConvert · 04-14-2019, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

I think that mentioning Corvette and Ferrari in the same breath is ridiculous. A vette is a vette. And it”s a great car. The new one likely will be as well (although a lot of FR vette owners are going to buy one and kill it because then haven’t a clue about MR driving dynamics), but it is no Ferrari. It’s not a 911 either. It’s better than a Cayman, at Cayman prices and Chevy cost of ownership. Which is no small feat, and 50 years in the making. Only people who have never driven a Ferrari would make that comparison.

It will also have a mid-range interior, and start to fall apart like every other Chev does, at 50,000 miles. First the visor mirror cover will snap off. Then the seat motors and window regulator will die. Oh, and because it is a GM, it will lose a wheel bearing every 40K because that’s what you do when you are a GM. BTW, not saying that a Ferrari would fare any better in this respect - it likely wouldn’t although few ever see that kind of mileage.

Fall apart at 50k miles? Only someone who hasn't owned a vette since the early 90s would allege that.

Baronsmokes · 04-14-2019, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

I think that mentioning Corvette and Ferrari in the same breath is ridiculous. A vette is a vette. And it”s a great car. The new one likely will be as well (although a lot of FR vette owners are going to buy one and kill it because then haven’t a clue about MR driving dynamics), but it is no Ferrari. It’s not a 911 either. It’s better than a Cayman, at Cayman prices and Chevy cost of ownership. Which is no small feat, and 50 years in the making. Only people who have never driven a Ferrari would make that comparison.

It will also have a mid-range interior, and start to fall apart like every other Chev does, at 50,000 miles. First the visor mirror cover will snap off. Then the seat motors and window regulator will die. Oh, and because it is a GM, it will lose a wheel bearing every 40K because that’s what you do when you are a GM. BTW, not saying that a Ferrari would fare any better in this respect - it likely wouldn’t although few ever see that kind of mileage.

The Corvette can absolutely compete with the Ferrari.
I had a Ferrari F30 that I had for a year.I always wanted one.
Great looking car. Beautiful interior finish.Great handling.Good performance and that Italian exhaust note.
Maintenance costs for car was staggering.I was able to do some things like oil changes.Ferrari does not share info.A lot of car is set up to be dealer serviced only.
This car had 17,000 miles when I bought it.It had just had the clutches replaced and oil changed at a cost of $12,000.Lets not even talk about the 30,000 mile service these cars get.
Dealers are arrogant and hard to work with.I sold car to guy who was buying his first also.Good luck to him.

The Corvette Zr1 costs less than half of the Ferrari.Costs so much less to maintain.Corvette can go toe to toe with performance and handling of newer Ferrari..Corvette does not have as nice of an interior as Ferrari.
You are saving so much money with the Vette you can put a custom interior in car.
Im not a big Corvette guy but hands down Corvette competes with many Supercars at a price that is more attainable.
Glad to finaly see the Mid engine Vette that I thought I would see in the 70's.

ZCanadian · 04-14-2019, 12:00 PM

I want what you guys are smoking! It’s legal here. :-)

And I can do 1.2G in any direction with my 4C. Due to its weight and amazing stock braking, on a tight course I’ve even passed an F458 (but not on a straight, obviously). That doesn’t make it a discount Ferrari, although the looks and attention the car gets are on par.

I have the utmost respect for what Chevrolet has done (took them 50 years to get there, mind you) in the C7. Hoping that the C8 is an equally impressive step forward for the platform. Although I think it might be wise to wait for the bugs to be worked out. Going to a mid engine layout is a huge leap for any manufacturer.

In the end, it is a Chevy, and I stand by my comments on build quality. I’ve owned enough of them. Probably more than 30 between personal and the fleet I manage at work. No, none of those are Corvettes, but I don’t see any reason to suspect that they are any better than what I’ve had experience with (from minivans to pickups, Cadillacs, and C5500’s).

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	The diffuser exposed out in the world. Looking good so far!! https://www-motor1-com.cdn.ampprojec...-spy-photos%2F __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	The tail azs end of the new corvette. https://www-motor1-com.cdn.ampprojec...er-backside%2F __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	C8 DEBUTS 7/18/19 https://www-caranddriver-com.cdn.amp...firmed-2020%2F __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	I cross shop Ferrari and Corvettes all the time. They both fall into the same category for me: I can't afford a new one and don't want a used one lol UNKNOWN_370 and Rusty like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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ZCanadian A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 1,061 Drives: 2013 370Z Rep Power: 60273	I want what you guys are smoking! It’s legal here. :-) And I can do 1.2G in any direction with my 4C. Due to its weight and amazing stock braking, on a tight course I’ve even passed an F458 (but not on a straight, obviously). That doesn’t make it a discount Ferrari, although the looks and attention the car gets are on par. I have the utmost respect for what Chevrolet has done (took them 50 years to get there, mind you) in the C7. Hoping that the C8 is an equally impressive step forward for the platform. Although I think it might be wise to wait for the bugs to be worked out. Going to a mid engine layout is a huge leap for any manufacturer. In the end, it is a Chevy, and I stand by my comments on build quality. I’ve owned enough of them. Probably more than 30 between personal and the fleet I manage at work. No, none of those are Corvettes, but I don’t see any reason to suspect that they are any better than what I’ve had experience with (from minivans to pickups, Cadillacs, and C5500’s).