The internal war between corvette azz nd camaro is amazing. It's a shame they're supposedly cancelling the camaro. Though there's a csmaro 3 test mule with modern engine and transmission running around in a hush hush test. P

Until you find out that the "modern engine" runs on electrons! :roflpuke2:

I think we all know that .. I just find it crazy... :p

The new C8 is here and dam is it sexy, it does look like a cross between a Ferrari 458 and the new NSX but for 60k! I love the interior as the cockpit contours to the driver. Boy this or the new Supra? for about the same price I think I will take the new C8. Amazing job by GM.
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/07/al...#lg=1&slide=14

Checking GM website the 2020 c8 is up already, looks like no manual but dam this is tempting at 60k What a bargain, this is what Acura should have done with their failed nsx.

https://www.chevrolet.com/upcoming-v...ation-corvette

At $60k this will take sales away from other cars.

495 horsepower
470 lbs tq.
8 speed dual clutch transmission.
0-60 in under 3 seconds
MRC 4.0
Front lift 2.0" with 1000 location memory
Under $60,000

The GT-R is now rendered... obsolete.

I wish Honda had taken this route with the NSX.

Wow. That's a lot of car for that price tag! Way to go GM. Looks good too.

$60K is impressive. But it's GM, so $60K also sounds like first gen headaches :ugh:

I'll test drive one though :yum:

Manual in the future planned?

Unlike the new Supra.......the vents and scoops are actually functional. Makes a difference to me!!

I never really was a corvette guy... Until now.
I know what my next car is gonna be!
What a crazy performance bargain!

So 3/4 of the **** that internet auto "journalists" speculate about turns out to be crap that they imagine and throw out there. Namely that the base C8 was going to cost more than $100K.

What we have here is an even more badass Chevy Fiero that is almost a supercar stock! Well done.

It's a recall generation with all makes and models these days... As far as new tech in the Corvette. It's only the DCT and front lift. But dual clutches have been in GM race cars before.
The rest of the technology is not new. It's just an updated c7 with the engine rearranged. The tech has smoothed out and upgraded instead of been invented in most cases.

If there were to be problems? I would think it may be cooling issues. But chevy has made several different mid engine prototypes that were rigorously tested over 5 decades. The car is new to market but not their experience in building mid engine cars. So I don't think it will be too bad

It's a first year model and just like with any car. You'll see the best version of thesecars in the 3rd and 4th year. That's true of GM or any car company.

I believe the race cars use a sequential box and not a dual clutch (mainly due to weight concerns)

Here's something I found on the initial release of the race car... it may have changed but I doubt it.


https://www.racecar-engineering.com/cars/corvette-c7-r/

Looks like home run for GM.
Price point is crazy for car.
The car will also be made with right hand drive.
Watch out Europe.

Nice, poor Supra. Man this thing is gonna destroy the Supra for not much more money, well worth the premium over the Supra. Toyota is like dayuuum, was not expecting this so soon to take the hype away from the Supra!

It would be kool if they made a 2,400lb fiero with the 4 banger from the camaro. That would be wicked. But pansies wont support it. Cuz... CROSSOVERS are better. :eekdance:

I have one negative criticism. The rear seems overly massive in comparison to the proportions of the rest of the car. But that said. No supercars has a usable trunk except the c8.

EDIT:

Maybe the GTR isn't obsolete yet? This interview states. The Corvette goes to 60 in under 3 seconds in the ZR1 package. Which is true of the c7 Z06 and ZR1. So we dont know the numbers of the LT2 engine yet. But I'm sure its an improvement of the stock 3.8 seconds to 60 that some reached 3.6 in a base Z.

https://youtu.be/yK6a5s9oi28

EDIT 2:

I didnt expect anything less from a DCT. But it's nice knowing chevy didnt do a dck move...

https://www-motor1-com.cdn.ampprojec...rom%20%251%24s

From the articles I've read, GM has put a lot of thought into...everything. Looks are each to their own, but this car's very existence right now is pretty insane.

Like "maybe I don't want a bargain on a used C7 anymore" insane. Hope there's no reliability issues.

I also heard from a good source.
C8 in future will be a hybrid with electric motor in front and all wheel drive.
He stated that engineers have planned this from the start.

I’m a bit gun shy with GM and first year rollouts, but I’m awaiting price book and may look to pull the trigger in late summer 2020 when pricing settles in. With this car if the base/z51 are producing the numbers they claim I don’t see a need to wait for z06 or Zr1.

I see people debating this and Supra, I think this will cause toyomw or BMYota to go back and figure some stuff out quickly because I think it took all wind out of whatever sail they were flying while teasing for past few years. .Nissan themselves better figure it out because with their recent GTR unjustified money grab will drive sales to zero as well. I mean I’ll wait for numbers but 200k plus nismo GTR or 3 of these cars and cash leftover.

I've been a defender of the Supra. I feel like there's more to it than meets the eye.

But I mean the vents are fake, justified as "being ready for mods".
There is supposedly vacancies ready for coolers as well.
The C8, for a bit more, already gives you that, plus 2 cylinders (not to mention Supra fans want to throw in a 2JZ into the current Supra), sub-3 second 0-60,probably 200mph given the C7 Z51 did like 190, a targa top, probably gonna see the thing continue its LeMans GT success, made in 'murica. I mean the interior seems more bonkers as well.

I am aware the SF90 is probably going to run circles around the C8, but the C8 is every bit of what a supercar has been the past decade when it comes to the fundamental blueprint. It's so crazy to think such money can buy that now.

The Supra didn't seem so bad, and started getting my interest with the power bump revealed, but GM just came about with the best car on planet Earth as of the past few days.

Mind right now is saving up for hopefully a late 2020 or 2021 purchase — there will hopefully be less likelihood of premiums and major issues will also hopefully be figured out. Manual transmission aside, this is literally the car I feel a lot of people were looking for from any manufacturer that has been involved with sports cars.

The SF90 is the new hybrid supercar. I think the "competitor" is the F8 Tributo


From an engineering standpoint, the new Vette looks good on paper. It's nice they're finally going with the MR layout. I still woudn't get one just due to preference.

:iagree:

Many will want to dismiss these cars cuz their favorite car company didnt do it. But the vette is king and Supra is the prince right now. If the supra was a Z and the vette was a GTR? You would hear the neverending praises. Its kool though. What's good about not being a FANBOY but being a REAL enthusiast. The experience means so much more than the brand. I love any company supporting the cause. I'm as loyal as the next new sports car. Abandon the enthusiast. I abandon the company. See you when you get your head straight and build a sports car fitting to be competitive.

Thank you Chevy. Thank you Toyota.

Just praying chevy is lying about the camaro and hoping nissan wakes up from their coma.

On the short run I'm looking at a ZL1 but on the long term? I may get the Vette or Supra.

Mazda just designed an inline 6 for sport applications. It's about to get real!

Agreed, I don’t have brand loyalty, I just was expecting like everyone else a 100k Bette and was waiting for the why buy this when you could buy xxx. I’m glad to see all of these affordable options out there regardless of brand. I’ve had zero issues from my 370z So still have no bad blood, rather I wish they would get their head in game with something new versus a 10 year old platform a major increase.

Wait for the C8 Z06 the following year. Next year's reveal. It has a rumored 4.2 liter Twin turbo charged engine with 720-750hp. That car will be on my to get list for the wife. LOL

If the Vette works from the get go, with little problems. And gets great reviews. It will blow everything out of the water. A lot who are sitting on the fence will go with the Vette. Long as the dealers don't jack the price up.

Z MODE & MY MODE EXPLAINED.

https://www-autoblog-com.cdn.ampproj...r-explained%2F


I have so much customization in my camaro. It's amazing I can go from super beastly crazy bucking bronco. To civil luxury soft driving. MRC is something amazing. Sounds like it only gets better in the C8.

I thought this might come in handy if you want to buy a new corvette or any out the box vehicle.

https://youtu.be/QeTcAa2iFts

My Z was one of the best cars I've ever owned. My complaints on the Z were from day one but I still bought one n had it 6 yrs cuz I loved the drive.

My issues were the

3 gauge quality
The Z Deserved the Bose stereo in the base car that was in the touring for the money.
The sticks on the manual and auto were cheaply done and it was a contact part so I was upset.
Lastly. They dumbed down our Z that JDM had like.
AUTO START
POWER FOLDING MIRRORS
REAR FOGLIGHT.

Nissan duped us... nevertheless the Z was an AWESOME drive.

There are dealers who sell at MSRP all day long.

I love my Nismo. It is going no where. LOL Not one thing annoys me about it even before the TT upgrade.

The C8 first year might be different.

Noop, Rick Conti, Chevy Dude, or the guy up in your neck of the woods that sells to Streetspeed717.

I just posted the youtube vid on how to buy a vette. All presumptions about purchase are answered in that vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZhPlBlc-MQ

He's guessing on the prices, but he seems confident the Z51 wouldn't be an insane jump.


Goal would be a 1LT Z51. If it still allows Android Auto, it bridges that gap. Really would want a 2LT because of the cameras, though.

And the lift doesn't sound like it will come standard. In GM's video they say it's "available".

Eventually, the market will adjust to MSRP or less.

But initially, if one dealership sells for list, he’ll sell the two cars that he receives in the first 6 months, and yes you can sign a deal for yours at list, but don’t expect to keys for a long time. Or order to suit (base, colour, etc) at list for a while.

Patience will be the key to getting a good car at a good price.

Z51 on the C7 was like 5k? I think it just upgrades you to MRC?

Here's a ford guy talking about abandoning ship on the GT500 temporarily to get a C8. I say good!!!!! Cuz Ford is horrible with mark ups. I hope the GT500 doesn't sell at all so that way the markup disappears n then it starts selling. Markups should be a crime.

https://youtu.be/-u-zQzh_ATA

Same with Supra. They better abandon the markup ship!!

Speaking of which. I think the camaro rumor is a lie. I think they said that to get as many people as possible to get into a vette. Influencing SS guys to upgrade.

Z51 is as big of a necessity as a Sport package on the Z.

dry sump lubrication, added coolers, e-diff, MRC, bigger brakes, exterior kit. On the C7 it actually made the rear vents functional too.

I see Z51 as the true baseline, and without as a way to accommodate budget buyers.