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Spooler 04-02-2019 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3839145)
Crazy that the LT2 is not functioning well in the new vette. I'm sure it will be difficult to cool that size v8 in this type of car and not sell it at R8 prices. Good luck Chevy.

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-vid...e-leak-april-1

Sucker, look at the very bottom of the article. It says, " April Fools". You fool.

UNKNOWN_370 04-02-2019 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3839340)
Sucker, look at the very bottom of the article. It says, " April Fools". You fool.

Sucker? U muffuggaz have colorful language behind the screen. But I'll let that go. I did get got though. Lol. I had to work n stopped resending bout 8 sentences short. :rofl2:

Spooler 04-02-2019 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3839346)
Sucker? U muffuggaz have colorful language behind the screen. But I'll let that go. I did get got though. Lol. I had to work n stopped resending bout 8 sentences short. :rofl2:

LOL, they got you good. Don't get mad at the messenger.

UNKNOWN_370 04-02-2019 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3839378)
LOL, they got you good. Don't get mad at the messenger.

It's all gravy!!! Lol

Listen... This one ain't a April fools... Little teaser pics of the interior. Loving the Ferrari shaped steering wheel. I think This vette is gonna be hot?!

https://www-caranddriver-com.cdn.amp...ette-gauges%2F

ZCanadian 04-02-2019 05:35 PM

Just rumour, but there is some indication that one crashed in testing at VIR

https://www.carscoops.com/2019/03/tw...rashes-at-vir/

UNKNOWN_370 04-04-2019 02:11 PM

The diffuser exposed out in the world. Looking good so far!!

https://www-motor1-com.cdn.ampprojec...-spy-photos%2F

UNKNOWN_370 04-10-2019 08:04 AM

The tail azs end of the new corvette.

https://www-motor1-com.cdn.ampprojec...er-backside%2F

gomer_110 04-10-2019 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3842193)
The tail azs end of the new corvette.

https://www-motor1-com.cdn.ampprojec...er-backside%2F

So part of the way down there is a link/image of a yellow C8. Of all the renderings and spy shots, the yellow C8 pictured looks identical to the C8 I spotted yesterday with its camo covers on in terms of body lines. Unfortunately I didn't have my phone handy to grab a pic, but I can tell you the C8 is as sexy as one would expect.

UNKNOWN_370 04-11-2019 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3842346)
So part of the way down there is a link/image of a yellow C8. Of all the renderings and spy shots, the yellow C8 pictured looks identical to the C8 I spotted yesterday with its camo covers on in terms of body lines. Unfortunately I didn't have my phone handy to grab a pic, but I can tell you the C8 is as sexy as one would expect.

I'm not expecting anything less than amazing looking. The C6 and C7 are pretty hot when you chose gran sport and up. The minor attentions to detail in the grand sport just really accentuates the corvette on to a whole different level.

I'm wondering if the Camaro 7 will take on a more corvettish FR appearance by being even lower than it already is... 53" ride height. The lowest production muscle car right now which I'm sure is a major contributor to the Camaro's logic defying handling!!
Or will they extend the C7 corvettes life with a refresh while having the C8. Maybe changing its designation? Cuz there's are a new corvette mechanical air dam patent that seems to be designed for the current gen vette. Love that Chevy is doing big things with these two and handling numbers aren't just on paper. It shows at a majority of tracks. Somebody's gotta keep the performance market alive and affordable.

UNKNOWN_370 04-11-2019 07:49 PM

C8 DEBUTS 7/18/19

https://www-caranddriver-com.cdn.amp...firmed-2020%2F

gomer_110 04-11-2019 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3842643)
I'm not expecting anything less than amazing looking. The C6 and C7 are pretty hot when you chose gran sport and up. The minor attentions to detail in the grand sport just really accentuates the corvette on to a whole different level.

I'm wondering if the Camaro 7 will take on a more corvettish FR appearance by being even lower than it already is... 53" ride height. The lowest production muscle car right now which I'm sure is a major contributor to the Camaro's logic defying handling!!
Or will they extend the C7 corvettes life with a refresh while having the C8. Maybe changing its designation? Cuz there's are a new corvette mechanical air dam patent that seems to be designed for the current gen vette. Love that Chevy is doing big things with these two and handling numbers aren't just on paper. It shows at a majority of tracks. Somebody's gotta keep the performance market alive and affordable.

I have serious concerns about that last part there. While I don't think it'll be true super car money, my bet is on pricing above past corvette pricing. For some reason, as soon as the engine goes behind the drive the price goes up a considerable amount.

Magic Bus 04-11-2019 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3842648)

Gonna be one fast sexy car:tup: Too bad no manual trans :(

FPenvy 04-12-2019 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3842654)
I have serious concerns about that last part there. While I don't think it'll be true super car money, my bet is on pricing above past corvette pricing. For some reason, as soon as the engine goes behind the drive the price goes up a considerable amount.

i mentioned it before on here that it will most likely be 60-65k for base model then add on to go up to Z51 and Z06.

UNKNOWN_370 04-13-2019 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3842654)
I have serious concerns about that last part there. While I don't think it'll be true super car money, my bet is on pricing above past corvette pricing. For some reason, as soon as the engine goes behind the drive the price goes up a considerable amount.

Serious concerns? That sounds so stressful. Lol. The corvette will always be the Affordable Ferrari. That's what it is. Right now going FMR is taking it out of competing with California's and pushing it with Italia's. It's base pricing should b's around 70k for a base model. Now if your dreams are owning a ZR1? Well that will probably be about 30k more than the one now. But you're probably just looking at a $10k to 15k bump. Which is fair considering the layout and that it will probably crush a Cayman to shreds? Possibly?


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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3842714)
i mentioned it before on here that it will most likely be 60-65k for base model then add on to go up to Z51 and Z06.

Yup... Im hearing 70k. But 60 to 70k is probably the safest bet as an entry.
For the power the LT1's are putting out now... I think that's more than fair with a 500hp LT2. And you'll have the next gen Camaro if the FR layout is still your cup of tea? I'm sure this will be like a Ferrari Italia for cayman prices. That's insane.

ZCanadian 04-13-2019 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3843113)
Serious concerns? That sounds so stressful. Lol. The corvette will always be the Affordable Ferrari. That's what it is. Right now going FMR is taking it out of competing with California's and pushing it with Italia's. It's base pricing should b's around 70k for a base model. Now if your dreams are owning a ZR1? Well that will probably be about 30k more than the one now. But you're probably just looking at a $10k to 15k bump. Which is fair considering the layout and that it will probably crush a Cayman to shreds? Possibly?




Yup... Im hearing 70k. But 60 to 70k is probably the safest bet as an entry.
For the power the LT1's are putting out now... I think that's more than fair with a 500hp LT2. And you'll have the next gen Camaro if the FR layout is still your cup of tea? I'm sure this will be like a Ferrari Italia for cayman prices. That's insane.

I think that mentioning Corvette and Ferrari in the same breath is ridiculous. A vette is a vette. And it”s a great car. The new one likely will be as well (although a lot of FR vette owners are going to buy one and kill it because then haven’t a clue about MR driving dynamics), but it is no Ferrari. It’s not a 911 either. It’s better than a Cayman, at Cayman prices and Chevy cost of ownership. Which is no small feat, and 50 years in the making. Only people who have never driven a Ferrari would make that comparison.

It will also have a mid-range interior, and start to fall apart like every other Chev does, at 50,000 miles. First the visor mirror cover will snap off. Then the seat motors and window regulator will die. Oh, and because it is a GM, it will lose a wheel bearing every 40K because that’s what you do when you are a GM. BTW, not saying that a Ferrari would fare any better in this respect - it likely wouldn’t although few ever see that kind of mileage.

UNKNOWN_370 04-14-2019 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3843209)
I think that mentioning Corvette and Ferrari in the same breath is ridiculous. A vette is a vette. And it”s a great car. The new one likely will be as well (although a lot of FR vette owners are going to buy one and kill it because then haven’t a clue about MR driving dynamics), but it is no Ferrari. It’s not a 911 either. It’s better than a Cayman, at Cayman prices and Chevy cost of ownership. Which is no small feat, and 50 years in the making. Only people who have never driven a Ferrari would make that comparison.

It will also have a mid-range interior, and start to fall apart like every other Chev does, at 50,000 miles. First the visor mirror cover will snap off. Then the seat motors and window regulator will die. Oh, and because it is a GM, it will lose a wheel bearing every 40K because that’s what you do when you are a GM. BTW, not saying that a Ferrari would fare any better in this respect - it likely wouldn’t although few ever see that kind of mileage.

Well. Since the C4 came out. It was designed to be a bargain version of a Ferrari Daytona. That's why when that car came out. They made Ferrari conversion kits which were made popular in the Miami vice television show.
Now aesthetically... We know there's no true comparison from an average built production car to a handbuilt italian machine based on the quality and workmanship. But Chevy has done a few things that are fair enough to call it a poor man's Ferrari.

1. Corvettes have similar ride height
2. Corvettes near 200mph top speeds.
3. Corvettes get up to 1.2 lateral g's
4. Corvettes rival in width and weight.
5. Corvettes have run on the same race tracks as Ferrari's.

So I don't think it's as ridiculous as you say. Tell me another car riding around with a 200mph top speed with 1.2g and 650hp for $80,000? But I bet you can point me to a Ferrari lamb or McLaren.

As far as comparing cuz I've never driven one? Well I spent $1600 to drive 4 supercars. Ferrari being one of them. Nothing sounds or shifts like a Ferrari. A Ferrari is one of a kind. But a corvette can give you some of the experiences of owning a supercar. Despite its production idiosyncrocies and lower quality. Lastly. Car mags used to always do the comparo between the 2 cars in the 80s and 90s.

JARblue 04-14-2019 01:24 AM

I cross shop Ferrari and Corvettes all the time. They both fall into the same category for me: I can't afford a new one and don't want a used one lol

ImportConvert 04-14-2019 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3843209)
I think that mentioning Corvette and Ferrari in the same breath is ridiculous. A vette is a vette. And it”s a great car. The new one likely will be as well (although a lot of FR vette owners are going to buy one and kill it because then haven’t a clue about MR driving dynamics), but it is no Ferrari. It’s not a 911 either. It’s better than a Cayman, at Cayman prices and Chevy cost of ownership. Which is no small feat, and 50 years in the making. Only people who have never driven a Ferrari would make that comparison.

It will also have a mid-range interior, and start to fall apart like every other Chev does, at 50,000 miles. First the visor mirror cover will snap off. Then the seat motors and window regulator will die. Oh, and because it is a GM, it will lose a wheel bearing every 40K because that’s what you do when you are a GM. BTW, not saying that a Ferrari would fare any better in this respect - it likely wouldn’t although few ever see that kind of mileage.

Fall apart at 50k miles? Only someone who hasn't owned a vette since the early 90s would allege that.

Baronsmokes 04-14-2019 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3843209)
I think that mentioning Corvette and Ferrari in the same breath is ridiculous. A vette is a vette. And it”s a great car. The new one likely will be as well (although a lot of FR vette owners are going to buy one and kill it because then haven’t a clue about MR driving dynamics), but it is no Ferrari. It’s not a 911 either. It’s better than a Cayman, at Cayman prices and Chevy cost of ownership. Which is no small feat, and 50 years in the making. Only people who have never driven a Ferrari would make that comparison.

It will also have a mid-range interior, and start to fall apart like every other Chev does, at 50,000 miles. First the visor mirror cover will snap off. Then the seat motors and window regulator will die. Oh, and because it is a GM, it will lose a wheel bearing every 40K because that’s what you do when you are a GM. BTW, not saying that a Ferrari would fare any better in this respect - it likely wouldn’t although few ever see that kind of mileage.

The Corvette can absolutely compete with the Ferrari.
I had a Ferrari F30 that I had for a year.I always wanted one.
Great looking car. Beautiful interior finish.Great handling.Good performance and that Italian exhaust note.
Maintenance costs for car was staggering.I was able to do some things like oil changes.Ferrari does not share info.A lot of car is set up to be dealer serviced only.
This car had 17,000 miles when I bought it.It had just had the clutches replaced and oil changed at a cost of $12,000.Lets not even talk about the 30,000 mile service these cars get.
Dealers are arrogant and hard to work with.I sold car to guy who was buying his first also.Good luck to him.

The Corvette Zr1 costs less than half of the Ferrari.Costs so much less to maintain.Corvette can go toe to toe with performance and handling of newer Ferrari..Corvette does not have as nice of an interior as Ferrari.
You are saving so much money with the Vette you can put a custom interior in car.
Im not a big Corvette guy but hands down Corvette competes with many Supercars at a price that is more attainable.
Glad to finaly see the Mid engine Vette that I thought I would see in the 70's.

ZCanadian 04-14-2019 11:00 AM

I want what you guys are smoking! It’s legal here. :-)

And I can do 1.2G in any direction with my 4C. Due to its weight and amazing stock braking, on a tight course I’ve even passed an F458 (but not on a straight, obviously). That doesn’t make it a discount Ferrari, although the looks and attention the car gets are on par.

I have the utmost respect for what Chevrolet has done (took them 50 years to get there, mind you) in the C7. Hoping that the C8 is an equally impressive step forward for the platform. Although I think it might be wise to wait for the bugs to be worked out. Going to a mid engine layout is a huge leap for any manufacturer.

In the end, it is a Chevy, and I stand by my comments on build quality. I’ve owned enough of them. Probably more than 30 between personal and the fleet I manage at work. No, none of those are Corvettes, but I don’t see any reason to suspect that they are any better than what I’ve had experience with (from minivans to pickups, Cadillacs, and C5500’s).

UNKNOWN_370 04-14-2019 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3843432)
I want what you guys are smoking! It’s legal here. :-)

And I can do 1.2G in any direction with my 4C. Due to its weight and amazing stock braking, on a tight course I’ve even passed an F458 (but not on a straight, obviously). That doesn’t make it a discount Ferrari, although the looks and attention the car gets are on par.

I have the utmost respect for what Chevrolet has done (took them 50 years to get there, mind you) in the C7. Hoping that the C8 is an equally impressive step forward for the platform. Although I think it might be wise to wait for the bugs to be worked out. Going to a mid engine layout is a huge leap for any manufacturer.

In the end, it is a Chevy, and I stand by my comments on build quality. I’ve owned enough of them. Probably more than 30 between personal and the fleet I manage at work. No, none of those are Corvettes, but I don’t see any reason to suspect that they are any better than what I’ve had experience with (from minivans to pickups, Cadillacs, and C5500’s).

I want what you're smoking... Lol. Im sure the cold air is thin in Canada. You realize the Alfa 4c as well as the giulia was designed by Ferrari engineers. Ferrari characteristics in an inexpensive production car??? Right? But anyway. It really doesn't matter. If your opinion is to Trump facts. That's fine. You got in the american liberal movement. :roflpuke2:

Oh and yes, your Alfa gets 1.2g cuz of a Ferrari engineer. You're welcome!

Rusty 04-14-2019 02:26 PM

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I want what you're smoking... Lol. Im sure the cold air is thin in Canada. You realize the Alfa 4c as well as the giulia was designed by Ferrari engineers. Ferrari characteristics in an inexpensive production car??? Right? But anyway. It really doesn't matter. If your opinion is to Trump facts. That's fine. You got in the american liberal movement. :roflpuke2:

Oh and yes, your Alfa gets 1.2g cuz of a Ferrari engineer. You're welcome!

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SouthArk370Z 04-14-2019 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3843460)
... If your opinion is to Trump facts. That's fine. You got in the american liberal movement. :roflpuke2: ...

What has politics got to do with the topic? Absolutely nothing (say it again).

UNKNOWN_370 04-14-2019 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3843500)
What has politics got to do with the topic? Absolutely nothing (say it again).


It was a joke... It wasn't like I was giving an actual political opinion. The word Trump was an unintended pun. Lol.

Anyway... Back to the corvette. The ZR1 ECM was cracked. 1000hp easily... Here we come.

https://youtu.be/76uW163e4uc

Rusty 04-14-2019 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3843575)
It was a joke... It wasn't like I was giving an actual political opinion. The word Trump was an unintended pun. Lol.

Anyway... Back to the corvette. The ZR1 ECM was cracked. 1000hp easily... Here we come.

https://youtu.be/76uW163e4uc

How many things they're going to break to get to 1000hp? :rofl2:

SouthArk370Z 04-14-2019 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3843575)
It was a joke... It wasn't like I was giving an actual political opinion. The word Trump was an unintended pun. Lol. ...

Wouldn't be the first joke I didn't get. Probably won't be the last. ;)

UNKNOWN_370 04-14-2019 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3843577)
How many things they're going to break to get to 1000hp? :rofl2:

Good question... They cracked the ECM. Let's see if it cracks the car?

UNKNOWN_370 04-14-2019 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3843599)
Wouldn't be the first joke I didn't get. Probably won't be the last. ;)

Well the point was... The c4 was actually designed to compete against the Ferrari daytona as it's budget competition This is fact. Like the Z benchmark was the Cayman.

The opinion here being delivered as fact is the corvette and Ferrari can't compare as a performance competitor.

So my joke was based on our current events but not wholly as a political debate. Just anticdotal humor with a subpolitical edge. Not a true political instigation. Lol.

Ok hopefully we can now get past this..
:driving: :tiphat: :icon17:

UNKNOWN_370 04-15-2019 08:00 AM

There's an overflow of c7 corvettes. When GM goes crazy and starts putting $16k+ deductions on vettes? I may pick up a grand sport and trade my Camaro?

eZg 04-15-2019 09:37 AM

Not a Vette dude....but if the car looks anything like the camo vs and is not much over $70K with 500 hp and true DCT......I'm all in.

Might have to shave emblems and do some custom bodywork (only partially kidding).....to help me forget I'm driving a Vette.......

UNKNOWN_370 04-15-2019 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eZg (Post 3843719)
Not a Vette dude....but if the car looks anything like the camo vs and is not much over $70K with 500 hp and true DCT......I'm all in.

Might have to shave emblems and do some custom bodywork (only partially kidding).....to help me forget I'm driving a Vette.......

Hopefully this is fact... Not fiction???

https://www-roadandtrack-com.cdn.amp...speculation%2F

FPenvy 04-15-2019 01:12 PM

dammit........might have to get one of these after they've been out a couple years.

1. dont want an early failed tranny like the 2014 C7 had to be revised instantly for 2015.

2. let someone else take that first price hit. i'll grab it after that first 10k depreciation hits as it leaves the lot.

ImportConvert 04-15-2019 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3843755)
dammit........might have to get one of these after they've been out a couple years.

1. dont want an early failed tranny like the 2014 C7 had to be revised instantly for 2015.

2. let someone else take that first price hit. i'll grab it after that first 10k depreciation hits as it leaves the lot.

This. I pretty much have always refused to buy a vehicle which has a powertrain less than 3 calendar years old, and then I hit the forums and see how they do or if they have common issues. The only time I put that standsrd on hold, I regretted it, but I did love the vehicle.

FPenvy 04-15-2019 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 3843764)
This. I pretty much have always refused to buy a vehicle which has a powertrain less than 3 calendar years old, and then I hit the forums and see how they do or if they have common issues. The only time I put that standsrd on hold, I regretted it, but I did love the vehicle.

sometimes there's a few that work out the gate......but that's like finding a unicorn lol

all vehicles have unseen issues that creep up as they get into the wild and miles are logged.

i'd wait to see how it preforms, how it looks uncovered, and how many issues they have in the first year.

also, i'm curious to see they other models once they are released.

Z51 is lowest i'd buy, Z06 is probably gonna be a monster, ZR1 iwill be TT with a flat plane crank V8, then the Zora will have the ZR1 engine plus electric motors for bonus power.

UNKNOWN_370 04-19-2019 04:40 PM

https://gmauthority-com.cdn.ampproje...19-ncm-bash%2F

The more detailed the pics get. The more insane the corvette looks. I know this is gonna be the most unenthusiast thing I ever said. But I wonder if this car will find a way to keep the same amount of cargo space as a C7. The c7 fits so much in the hatch. It's amazing.

Firebase99 04-19-2019 09:18 PM

Looks a lot shorter than the current C7...I like it. Alot. Ferrari-esq.

Rusty 04-19-2019 09:24 PM

The 458/488 is the bench mark. So yea it's going to look something like those. Honda did the something with the new NSX.

Rusty 04-21-2019 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3843575)
It was a joke... It wasn't like I was giving an actual political opinion. The word Trump was an unintended pun. Lol.

Anyway... Back to the corvette. The ZR1 ECM was cracked. 1000hp easily... Here we come.

https://youtu.be/76uW163e4uc

Numbers of first tune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omo9-UFBkDM

UNKNOWN_370 04-22-2019 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kromberg (Post 3804600)
The ME C8 is going to be around the $130K MSRP, but I doubt you could pick one up for anything under $150K. For that price, you can pick up a nice low mile Lamborghini or Ferrari. GM started to out price their indented buyers starting mid run of the C6. The base model C8 is targeted for around $80K, again way over priced.

A Ferrari costs $30,000 a year to maintain. A corvette. The most expensive part is tires... Just sayin.

Spooler 04-22-2019 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3845666)
A Ferrari costs $30,000 a year to maintain. A corvette. The most expensive part is tires... Just sayin.

If you want a C8 corvette I can point you toward the salesman/dealership that will sell you one for MSRP. Don't fall for those price gouging dealerships with no knowledge of the Corvette.


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