Hyundai is about to do it again! Well Genesis!

binary0x01 · 04-08-2018, 12:47 PM

The positive out of this can be taken from something new being done. If Nissan decides to do 'something new', we can expect it to be good. I doubt they'll ever to a collaboration project, and if they keep it pure it may be something really nice... who knows. But I agree, more sports cars is better than not, no matter who makes them.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-09-2018, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Zerafian

you have a point

why does it feel so natural to cringe or feel disgust when I look at Hyundai though. Aside from the fact that my wife bought a new 2013 and it had so many issues, ended up being a "lemon". Bad taste in my mouth maybe.

In my opinion. You had a bad personal experience. So if swayed your faith in hyundai.

But it's easy to have EXTRA dislike for Hyundai as the general population thinks low of Korean manufacturing over Japanese. Despite successful companies like Samsung, LG, HTC, etc... We hold on to 30 year old perceptions despite real facts. Unfortunately, Our nation was designed this way for reasons that go against forum policy to discuss, but that culture drips into the consumer market.

Second, Hyundai was the broke persons car the first 15 years it existed. Since we also have an engrained disdain for being or owning anything marketed as budget or poor. We don't want to associate with cars that gained ground marketing to the nation's lower class.

No matter what Hyundai does to improve. There will be a segment of people that cant shake indoctrinated thinking. Many people will always think it was that cheap quirky car for perceived losers. It's a perception. A subjective thought. Not a reality.

As far as lemons? All cars have lemons. My neighbors BMW is always getting worked on as most of my BMW owning friends. He has more Recalls than Schwarzenegger. Yet BMW has been sold to you as the ultimate driving machine. Its an indoctrinated perception of BMW. The one that put that title on BMW was BMW. Society was kind to BMW and supported this.
Not saying BMW doesn't perform well. But there have been many equal or better, more RELIABLE cars that don't get that label,

Hyundai in the past, had problems finding a suitable transmission pairing in a couple of models. But this was rectified 7 years ago.
Hyundai had iron cast parts in cars. This also was rectified 7 years ago. Hyundai is now capable enough that they can focus on performance. They've only existed 31 years or something like that? No company has come up so fast.

Hyundai uses DCT instead of CVT. That in itself allows me to respect them more than Nissan as a collective whole. This is my subjective opinion. I hate CVT.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-09-2018, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by binary0x01

The positive out of this can be taken from something new being done. If Nissan decides to do 'something new', we can expect it to be good. I doubt they'll ever to a collaboration project, and if they keep it pure it may be something really nice... who knows. But I agree, more sports cars is better than not, no matter who makes them.

Nissan already did a collaboration with the Titan with Dodge. Infiniti QX30 and the Mercedes Gla 250.
Nissan and Mazda with the Altima 4 cylinder
I'm sure they're not allergic to collaboration.

2011 Nismo#91 · 04-09-2018, 12:33 PM

Saw this at the NY Auto Show and it looks great but seeing it in person it's just too concept carish to ever see anything close to it in production. The whole front would have to change to put in a practical suspension.

*J*ap***V*et* · 04-09-2018, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

In my opinion. You had a bad personal experience. So if swayed your faith in hyundai.

But it's easy to have EXTRA dislike for Hyundai as the general population thinks low of Korean manufacturing over Japanese. Despite successful companies like Samsung, LG, HTC, etc... We hold on to 30 year old perceptions despite real facts. Unfortunately, Our nation was designed this way for reasons that go against forum policy to discuss, but that culture drips into the consumer market.

Second, Hyundai was the broke persons car the first 15 years it existed. Since we also have an engrained disdain for being or owning anything marketed as budget or poor. We don't want to associate with cars that gained ground marketing to the nation's lower class.

No matter what Hyundai does to improve. There will be a segment of people that cant shake indoctrinated thinking. Many people will always think it was that cheap quirky car for perceived losers. It's a perception. A subjective thought. Not a reality.

As far as lemons? All cars have lemons. My neighbors BMW is always getting worked on as most of my BMW owning friends. He has more Recalls than Schwarzenegger. Yet BMW has been sold to you as the ultimate driving machine. Its an indoctrinated perception of BMW. The one that put that title on BMW was BMW. Society was kind to BMW and supported this.
Not saying BMW doesn't perform well. But there have been many equal or better, more RELIABLE cars that don't get that label,

Hyundai in the past, had problems finding a suitable transmission pairing in a couple of models. But this was rectified 7 years ago.
Hyundai had iron cast parts in cars. This also was rectified 7 years ago. Hyundai is now capable enough that they can focus on performance. They've only existed 31 years or something like that? No company has come up so fast.

Hyundai uses DCT instead of CVT. That in itself allows me to respect them more than Nissan as a collective whole. This is my subjective opinion. I hate CVT.

Couldn't have said it better myself sir. Hyundai gets a bad rap due to making budget friendly and boring cars throughout the many years of their early development. Things have changed quite a bit for them and they really are trying new and exciting ideas. Check out that Kia Stinger....stupid name but one hell of a car from an "on paper" standpoint. As for the Japanese manufaturers they are mostly moving away from those sports varieties because in truth they really don't sell as well as they once did.

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binary0x01 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Idaho Posts: 892 Drives: 2012 6-SPEED 3.7L Z Rep Power: 14	The positive out of this can be taken from something new being done. If Nissan decides to do 'something new', we can expect it to be good. I doubt they'll ever to a collaboration project, and if they keep it pure it may be something really nice... who knows. But I agree, more sports cars is better than not, no matter who makes them. __________________ Tune (by Seb@SpecialtyZ) -- Upgraded Parts List : When in doubt, use brute force; if it doesn't work, you aren't using enough.

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