Nissan setting trends at accepting failure.
 

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How comfortable is Nissan for
1. Not aggressively refreshing the Z.
2. Not having a Z35 concept
3. Ignored the large cult following of the IDX
4. Overextending the GT-R
5. Not making a true Red Sport.
6. Cancelling the good handling quick juke.
7. Now accepting failure at Le Mans so they can FOCUS on formula E.

So Formula E will use the chassis of a Kicks midnight edition Nismo Star wars edition and race against 80's micro machines run by pennies in the back.

Nissans sickening slouchery is an abomination to the automotive industry.
This was a company with like 7 sports cars in the 90's.

Yes the Z34 and GT-R are legendary. Progress like fvckin legends... Bitches!!!

Nissan seems lost right now, do they want to make appliances or fun cars. They can't seem to decide....They needed to make a successor to the 370, give it a TT motor and proper six speed. But no, you can only get the Infinity Q60....which is a nice car....but its a GT car. It should NOT be hard to fit a six speed and new sheet metal....a few tweeks and there ya go, its done. But no....they make Black edition this and that, with some really nice stickers and ugly black wheels......

After seeing the Rouge Jr, or Rouge Sport,... perhaps Rouge Lite for the first time two days ago, I'm going to place my vote in the 'Not Fun' column. What a bloody POS!

Seriously, if it weren't for the GTR and 370Z, I wouldn't even 'know' Nissan.

Just lost for words, once great, now just a car company....
:shakes head:

Your "Rogue Sport" is called the Qashqai in markets outside of the USA. Or, "Cash Cow" to Nissan executives. It has been a world car for Nissan since 2006.

Bottom line, they became a global player by building cars for enthusiasts as well as making cheap practical cars. However, they now want to make money by largely serving large, stable market segments with low-cost product and shared architecture. The "enthusiast car" reputation has now allowed them to prostitute the term NISMO, but their interest does not appear to extend to actually developing new product in that area.

Hell, they can't even fix the CSC issue after how many years. Or address any of the other fatal flaws in any number of their other models.

It appears that the company might have fully embraced "failure" as a strategy.

Best parallel I can think of is the Dallas Cowboys. The difference is Carlos Ghosn was replaced as CEO in April, and we're stuck with Jerry F*ing Jones continuing to flush this once great franchise down the shitter until he dies.

RIP Mr. K.

There have been even more failures for Nissan. Remember the once great and proud industry leading SUV, the Pathfinder? Have you seen the current gen. Pathfinders? So sad! Nissan execs need to take some viagra or commit harakiri.

And they continue with defective CVT transmissions. This is not a winning strategy. Not a trustworthy company.

Should You Trust Nissan's CVT? | Nissan Problems

Before the 370z and the GTR all I know about Nissan is they make waffle biscuits!


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Maybe they need to go back making this :tup:

Mmmmmmmm! Human sized artificial Choco flavor snack wafers. Mmmmmmm!

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Those lazy Japanese guys...!!

You calmly described Nissan eloquently. Im sure Ricer X would have some seemingly choice words for Nissans strategy if he posted right now? :icon17:

Words like this were spoken in 2011 when these words weren't true but in 2018. Both fortunately for the muscle arena, and unfortunately for JDM, but ugh... The camaro and corvette have feedback, handle way above their price point and have power for days. Mustang in 2018 is a much more serious competitor to the camaro.

If toyota added 80hp to the FRS, i dont think the Z would sell more than 100 units a month. Passion for Nissans old philosophy still sells Z's at 5 to 7k plus units a year.

When the supra drops. Nissan will see a decline in sales unless the next GTR will start with a base msrp of $65,000 like a vette gs. Nissan has no spine. They lost their edge.

This is hardly a surprise.

Nissan is a business with no allegiance or obligation to the dying sport car market segment. Thank the Great Recession and millennials.

Thus, Nissan is going all in with its push toward electric vehicles. Remember, Nissan sells millions and millions of Altimas and light trucks in Asia. The Z is an anachronism. See the North America sales data: Nissan 370Z US car sales figures

It's not about edge or desire, but economics.

They will build what they think will sell and make the most profit off of. It's all about the beans. Companies build sports cars to get attention. Like the Viper. Dodge lost money on everyone sold.

Not only Nissan is way behind with their sports cars, the current line up of cars, SUVs and trucks is just mediocre if not worse. I can find at least 2 better alternatives easily for each model. The only one that is attractive to me is the Armada.

Well, that probably depends on what you are looking for, and features you prioritize.
I just bought a new Titan, and felt it was the best product/price out there (for me). But it too has some serious flaws. Nissan’s response? “That’s operating normally”. Not a great strategy to try and be taken seriously agaist the Fords, GMs and RAMs of the world.

Their commercial vehicles are pretty good, too. But they are notgoing to set the world on fire with those.

It's hard to understand how these car companies can continue to sell defective products for years with feeble or non-existent attempts to correct known issues. I was looking at used Pathfinders only to discover the CVT transmission nightmare. CARMAX will gladly selll you one and probably knows it has a POS transmission. Thankfully there are sources of information today to reduce ones chances of buying a lemon or vehicle with certain defects. I puchased a used 2011 Ford Escape a few years back and it has several known issues, but nothing like the CVT issue. The transmission slips a bit when cold and the electronic power steering stops working sporadically. The transmission issue can be corrected with a ECU update. The power steering has only shutdown once in 30K+ miles. It resets if you stop and start the car.

I guess most cars are not perfect but the manufacturers should certainly address the defects that render the vehicle useless and cost thousands of dollars, or endanger ones life.

Frontier / Xterra have an even better automatic tranny issue since 2005 refresh.

The separation in the radiator between tranny cooler and engine coolant fails at an alarming rate in these. Running glycol through an automatic transmission has devastating effects. By the time you experience the symptoms, your gearbox is toast. This was not fixed until at least into the twenty-teens. You cannot find used transmissions! New ones are not cheap. First thing I did when I read about that was to bypass the rad and put an after-market oil cooler in.

Fuel sending units in 2005+ Pathfinder/Xterra/Frontier stops reading fuel level and gas light comes on with 3/4 tank displayed (unknown quantity in the tank, often full). Therre was a recall, but not covering anywhere near the number of vehicles affected. Was a major battle to get Nissan to cover any of the cost (I had dealership do mine and fought for years to get Nissan to pony up any of it. Evenutally, thanks to joining a complaint campaign to Transport Canada, they did come to the table but did not pay in full. Bascially, they would have hung their dealerships out to dry for the difference between what they billed me and what Nissan would authorize them in the way of cost for the job).

Both these tended to manifest themselves shortly after the warranty was up, so there was little direct incentive for Nissan to address them.

Smacks of a French attitude. Wait a minute ... Renault??? :rofl2:

OMG they've sold more Altimas in one year (250k+) than they've sold over the entire 370z production run.

Oh Nissan. Where do I begin to describe the fvckery that is your business?

Nissan is one good idea fairy away from being the first crossover that can brew a k-cup pumpkin spice latte in the center console... but can't figure out what to do with a sports car. Maybe for every 10 former Bed Bath and Beyond executives they hire into product planning they could grab one person who doesn't suffer an adrenaline dump or an anxiety attack at the thought of going 5 over the speed limit in the left lane on the interstate? Maybe we just start there and see what happens.

The new Titan is good - I bought one in November. The Frontier (though close to being eligible for Antique plates in my state) is also still good. The Z (though right behind the Frontier in terms of impending fossilization) is still good. The GT-R (pending AARP card application) is good. The rest of the Nissan lineup isn't composed of cars - it's composed of appliances. They serve no greater purpose to the mechanics of your day than your coffee maker and your electric toothbrush. I've bought my last new one for the indefinite future, and I've been one of their biggest fans for a couple decades now. I've had a RAV4 for a rental car for the last month, and its transmission was better programmed than anything Nissan has made with an automatic or CVT for the last 15 years. I'm afraid to drive a Prius for what I might have to positively reflect upon when comparing to anything I've driven from Nissan in the last year. When you're to that point, it's time to take your wallet and explore the world a bit.

NISSAN - where "complacency" is our basic resting pulse.

Catchy, don't you think? ;-)