New Mustang 5.0L confirmed HP

theDreamer · 12-20-2009, 11:31 PM

How about this one?

12-20-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Trust me, I know. I hate brand-whores like nothing else.

Really, I am just out to defend the truth like most everyone else in this thread that can recognize a good car when they see it.

If you had to deal with what I did, you would hate the Mustang too. These kids make it out to be better than a ******* supercar

In the end, people fail to realize that American is built for a different purpose than Japanese. The Mustang is known as a drag car, thats all. I just find it funny that a lot of people try to brag about that over a Jap car when a Jap car is built for something different. Yes, the Mustang will win in a line (if modded since the v8 is downgraded from factory and responds better to mods) and the Z will win in the corners. But man some kids I deal with think their Stang will outhandle the Z....they are just INSANE.... Hopefully one day that argument will be agreed upon and people will STFU.

I do find it funny however, that the 370z can currently beat the Mustang out of a V6 (pre 5.0). Japanese engineering > American.

nogoodname · 12-20-2009, 11:31 PM

Shum has that in his sig LOL

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

lol my roomate tried to brag to me saying that the new mustang gt hit the skidpad better than a 350z. I told him its nothing to brag about if its true that I hope a 2011 car could do better than a 03

That is one of the things that really annoys me about car people. People have a tendency to compare their car to cars in different classes. We see it here all the time and it's very annoying.

Put simply, the Mustang is NOT a sports car. The Mustang is a muscle car or sports coupe, however you want to phrase it. The Z is a sports car. They just don't compare.

I don't care if they have roughly the same power and are about as fast as one another... they aren't in the same class.

One is a street car that works the everyday with ease and can run the strip or track just fine (and can be modded either way, too).

The other is a track car that's been ported over for street use, too. You can throw your golf bag in the hatch but it doesn't really work for daily use unless you're some crazy enthusiast like a lot of us are.

Compare the Mustang to the Camaro.

Compare the Z to a Cayman.

Don't compare the two. It doesn't work that way.

12-20-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

That is one of the things that really annoys me about car people. People have a tendency to compare their car to cars in different classes. We see it here all the time and it's very annoying.

Put simply, the Mustang is NOT a sports car. The Mustang is a muscle car or sports coupe, however you want to phrase it. The Z is a sports car. They just don't compare.

I don't care if they have roughly the same power and are about as fast as one another... they aren't in the same class.

One is a street car that works the everyday with ease and can run the strip or track just fine (and can be modded either way, too).

The other is a track car that's been ported over for street use, too. You can throw your golf bag in the hatch but it doesn't really work for daily use unless you're some crazy enthusiast like a lot of us are.

Compare the Mustang to the Camaro.

Compare the Z to a Cayman.

Don't compare the two. It doesn't work that way.

We are on the same page.

nogoodname · 12-20-2009, 11:38 PM

Gm ppl, ford ppl and mopar ppl will never get along lol

chill out yo and ibtl

theDreamer · 12-20-2009, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

That is one of the things that really annoys me about car people. People have a tendency to compare their car to cars in different classes. We see it here all the time and it's very annoying.

Put simply, the Mustang is NOT a sports car. The Mustang is a muscle car or sports coupe, however you want to phrase it. The Z is a sports car. They just don't compare.

I don't care if they have roughly the same power and are about as fast as one another... they aren't in the same class.

One is a street car that works the everyday with ease and can run the strip or track just fine (and can be modded either way, too).

The other is a track car that's been ported over for street use, too. You can throw your golf bag in the hatch but it doesn't really work for daily use unless you're some crazy enthusiast like a lot of us are.

Compare the Mustang to the Camaro.

Compare the Z to a Cayman.

Don't compare the two. It doesn't work that way.

Logic, on the internet.

kdo2milger · 12-20-2009, 11:39 PM

is the pharmacy still open at this hour?

i need some ambien...

Trips · 12-20-2009, 11:42 PM

ibtl

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

If you had to deal with what I did, you would hate the Mustang too. These kids make it out to be better than a ******* supercar

Dude, I know exactly what you went through. It happens with owners of any car. There are people here who believe the Z was heaven sent just so JC would have some wheels when he came back. Seriously.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue660r01

The Mustang is known as a drag car, thats all.

This is a common misconception. The Mustang was never intended as a drag car. It just so happened that drag racing is a very popular facet of American car culture. In reality, the car was designed as a sporty coupe and could really do anything the owner wanted to do with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue660r01

I do find it funny however, that the 370z can currently beat the Mustang out of a V6 (pre 5.0). Japanese engineering > American.

Sorry, but this hp per liter/cylinder stuff is also something that's old and tired. It's common knowledge that no manufacturer tunes their engines to maximum power -- this is especially true for the American V8s. They are tuned very conservatively to balance power and fuel efficiency. They are also very conservatively geared.

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2009, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue660r01

We are on the same page.

For the most part.

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2009, 11:50 PM

So I re-read some of my posts and feel like I need to apologize.

Pharmacist, while I disagree with your stance on this subject, it does not merit personal attacks. I do apologize for my assault on your integrity. I am a passionate car guy and lets just say it's easy sometimes to get carried away.

I do not intend harm. At the end of the day we are all on the same team... we own Z's because we are Z enthusiasts and that alone should be enough for us to be able to get along even when we disagree.

12-20-2009, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

This is a common misconception. The Mustang was never intended as a drag car. It just so happened that drag racing is a very popular facet of American car culture. In reality, the car was designed as a sporty coupe and could really do anything the owner wanted to do with it.

I agree somewhat. Yeah it was kinda meant for daily driving also.....but damn that rear end kills it!!!

kdo2milger · 12-20-2009, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

So I re-read some of my posts and feel like I need to apologize.

Pharmacist, while I disagree with your stance on this subject, it does not merit personal attacks. I do apologize for my assault on your integrity. I am a passionate car guy and lets just say it's easy sometimes to get carried away.

I do not intend harm. At the end of the day we are all on the same team... we own Z's because we are Z enthusiasts and that alone should be enough for us to be able to get along even when we disagree.

yay!

z's not g's!

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

I think the Camaro looks so much more aggressive.

One of the reasons for the great success of the Mustang is this right here.

It was never quite as edgy as the Camaro/Firebird... especially in the 90s and early 2000s. But it appealed to more people than the F-bodies so that's why they died in '03 and the Mustang kept going.

Now that the Camaro is back we will see how it all shakes out.

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