Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3768491)

The important part of all this... from the Stinger or G70. It's a BRAND NEW entry. Having a brand new entry is what pushes forward interest. Alfa n Hyundai took huge risks in the lame, one sided, mind controlled, immunized, fluoridated and GMO'd American drone market and tried to give us what we ask for that we always later push away.

Americans wanted the GTR. It's not doing well vs it's pre entry demand. They wanted the euro spec focus, after years of crying, they didn't buy it, now it's gone. They wanted Alfa a to come back. Now that they're here all they talk is unreliability. The car hasn't been on American soil long enough to even know if it's reliable. What do u expect from the only nation pushing for 26 genders as a national standard so aggressively? Smh. Can u imagine, 26 restrooms at the movie theater?

Our car market and everything else has been ruined by pansies.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3824283)

Me too... My preference is the Giulia. But it would be interesting to see how close the genesis has come. The stinger is heavier and longer. So the G70 has to be the competitor. My curiosity lies more in handling than equal performance.

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 3837922)

Wouldn't touch Alfa with a 10ft pole owned by someone else. I value reliability above all else, at least to the extent that the car isn't a flaming POS, which Alfas are.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...bility-update/

Originally Posted by Ventruck (Post 3838842)

This has been piquing my interest as a possible lease car.

The only thing is I'm totally counting on a CPO to come with massive Hyundai/Genesis depreciation. That, and a future gen HUD has already leaked. The G70 at the moment seems to be like a build of things that have worked (kinda like how our Z started), but not necessarily keeping up with the times.

Like I have faith it's a good car unless we see unreliability reports kick up. It looks like a good deal at retail, but that likelihood of considerable depreciation makes it sound like anyone buying new is just consciously overpaying.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3694331)

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/...dr/first-drive


Seriously guys, the G70 looks even better than the stinger. Addresses the quality issues some state. Is directly competitive to a 340i or Q50.
Has features like LAUNCH CONTROL on every model. And is just a handsome package.

The Genesis brand is hitting the mark thus far. Hyundai has overcome huge feats in design and performance in 8 years. And the 5 years before that they proved their reliability. Sure they've had some rattles and the AISIN transmission had issues. But they went in house and fixed those issues. I think that's amazing!!!

Just when they are getting their performance edge. This is what their. CEO predicts...

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So basically, he's telling the world gas engine performance is almost obsolete and heritage will mean nothing shortly.

Not a way to sell your brand new performance cars are on sport oriented chassis.

No N division due to electric performance??? Only if we could all support Ferrari who refuses to make electric cars.