981 Cayman S vs GT350

triso07 · 05-21-2017, 09:14 AM

That rustang revs to 8250. It has recaro seats, massive brembo brakes, and a magnetic ride suspension. I also think it looks and sounds amazing. It's just ... well ... big. The proportions are huge and that turns me off. Hard to drive a car like that fast on a twisty back road which is where I enjoy my cars the most. Then there's build quality. I'm not sure I trust Ford.

Drove a 981 Cayman GTS already and it was amazing. Great free revving engine that has a musical tone. Quick. Very refined. Interior and exterior are good looking without being too over the top. The H6 in there has been replaced with a turbo h4, so I think resale might be pretty damn good on these in the future. I guess the concern there is Porsche parts and maintenance. Cost of ownership could be significant.

jliu · 05-21-2017, 09:50 AM

Well, I have both a 2014 370z touring sport and a 2013 Boxster 981S. The Cayman S has about 10 more HP than the Boxster S. Other than that they are identical. I enjoy both cars equally. One thing the Porsche has over the Z is its intoxication tone of the flat 6 engine roars right behind you because of its mid-engine design. Both cars can go fast, but I think the Porsche is bit quicker, especially when cornering. Porsche interior is more refined and has better quality.
Yes, the cost of ownership is definitely higher with the Porsche. For example, the cost of materials of changing oil is twice on the Porsche compares to the Z. The main reason is the 981 takes almost 10 quarts of synthetic oil, and its oil filter costs about twice as an ordinary filter. Since I wrench myself the maintenance cost is not too bad. Based on the paper works I got from the previous owner Porsche charge him $350 for an oil change, OUCH!..

triso07 · 05-21-2017, 10:25 AM

How reliable has your Boxster been?

Which car do you have more fun in?

Which car do you enjoy owning more? Why?

I feel like I just wrote test questions for a car SAT or something.

Nixin · 05-21-2017, 10:28 AM

triso07, no one is ducking your original question,we have given you suggestions. That on its own should be answer enough. Only you can answer your own question and fill in the various voids. If your heart and mind is set on one of these two vehicles, maybe you should speak to the owners of such vehicles. Otherwise, do some more research and check out vehicle specific forums. GL with your search.

SINISTER · 05-21-2017, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jliu

Well, I have both a 2014 370z touring sport and a 2013 Boxster 981S. The Cayman S has about 10 more HP than the Boxster S. Other than that they are identical. I enjoy both cars equally. One thing the Porsche has over the Z is its intoxication tone of the flat 6 engine roars right behind you because of its mid-engine design. Both cars can go fast, but I think the Porsche is bit quicker, especially when cornering. Porsche interior is more refined and has better quality.
Yes, the cost of ownership is definitely higher with the Porsche. For example, the cost of materials of changing oil is twice on the Porsche compares to the Z. The main reason is the 981 takes almost 10 quarts of synthetic oil, and its oil filter costs about twice as an ordinary filter. Since I wrench myself the maintenance cost is not too bad. Based on the paper works I got from the previous owner Porsche charge him $350 for an oil change, OUCH!..

Is the transmission fluid change as big of a nightmare as the Mercedes transmission 722.9...?
Because you have to drain the torque tube and drain the pan, but then actually remove the pan, clean pan, change filter,pump the fluid through the same drain hole (so special attachment and pump needed) then get the temp of the engine up to 45C then open drain plug and confirm that it is just "spurting" out and note draining out...subjective, messy, costly, PITA...

triso07 · 05-21-2017, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixin

triso07, no one is ducking your original question,we have given you suggestions. That on its own should be answer enough. Only you can answer your own question and fill in the various voids. If your heart and mind is set on one of these two vehicles, maybe you should speak to the owners of such vehicles. Otherwise, do some more research and check out vehicle specific forums. GL with your search.

Thanks. It was just a joke.

jliu · 05-21-2017, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SINISTER

Is the transmission fluid change as big of a nightmare as the Mercedes transmission 722.9...?
Because you have to drain the torque tube and drain the pan, but then actually remove the pan, clean pan, change filter,pump the fluid through the same drain hole (so special attachment and pump needed) then get the temp of the engine up to 45C then open drain plug and confirm that it is just "spurting" out and note draining out...subjective, messy, costly, PITA...

I have a 6sp manual and it is simply drain and fill. I am not sure what is involve of a transmission fluid change with the PDK transmission.

Magic Bus · 05-21-2017, 12:21 PM

I've driven both & the 981s would be my choice. The power on the the 350 is nuts and fun, but if you're into handling & feel the 981s is tough to beat.

tonythetiger · 05-21-2017, 08:38 PM

mustang 350r looks badass but iv heard they had overheating issues unless people didnt get the track package. 350r is the only mustang i would get for track purpose only.

but honestly i wouldnt mind have a mid engine cayman for everyday driver/track. handling is superb in cayman, somtimes you dont need a lot of power to have fun. the only downfall is maintenance can be super expensive. a lot of porsche guys eventually sell their cars due to maintenance cost

triso07 · 05-22-2017, 10:47 AM

My understanding of that is people bought '16 tech package cars and then tracked them hard and were shocked when they overheated. If that's all there is to it, then where is the common sense? They offered a track pack that has all the necessary coolers, how is it Fords fault they tracked a car without the track pack?

Nixin · 05-22-2017, 04:35 PM

Common sense is not that common in most people.

sunkist350z · 05-22-2017, 06:38 PM

I would take the regular base Caymen over the rustang , don't care how much faster the ford is.

wilsonp · 05-26-2017, 07:26 PM

I'm never in the market for a car with over two seats, so I picked the Cayman S.

triso07 · 05-27-2017, 10:27 AM

lol well said wilsonp. There is something special about a 2 seater.

Redglare · 05-27-2017, 01:24 PM

Cayman for me also,

look at the boss302 vs same gen cayman and look at how they aged/desirability - clear victor is the P car.

05-21-2017, 09:14 AM	#16 (permalink)
triso07 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 174 Drives: xxxxxxx Rep Power: 15	That rustang revs to 8250. It has recaro seats, massive brembo brakes, and a magnetic ride suspension. I also think it looks and sounds amazing. It's just ... well ... big. The proportions are huge and that turns me off. Hard to drive a car like that fast on a twisty back road which is where I enjoy my cars the most. Then there's build quality. I'm not sure I trust Ford. Drove a 981 Cayman GTS already and it was amazing. Great free revving engine that has a musical tone. Quick. Very refined. Interior and exterior are good looking without being too over the top. The H6 in there has been replaced with a turbo h4, so I think resale might be pretty damn good on these in the future. I guess the concern there is Porsche parts and maintenance. Cost of ownership could be significant. ZCanadian likes this.

05-21-2017, 09:50 AM	#17 (permalink)
jliu Base Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: N. CA Posts: 107 Drives: 2014 370z Touring Rep Power: 10	Well, I have both a 2014 370z touring sport and a 2013 Boxster 981S. The Cayman S has about 10 more HP than the Boxster S. Other than that they are identical. I enjoy both cars equally. One thing the Porsche has over the Z is its intoxication tone of the flat 6 engine roars right behind you because of its mid-engine design. Both cars can go fast, but I think the Porsche is bit quicker, especially when cornering. Porsche interior is more refined and has better quality. Yes, the cost of ownership is definitely higher with the Porsche. For example, the cost of materials of changing oil is twice on the Porsche compares to the Z. The main reason is the 981 takes almost 10 quarts of synthetic oil, and its oil filter costs about twice as an ordinary filter. Since I wrench myself the maintenance cost is not too bad. Based on the paper works I got from the previous owner Porsche charge him $350 for an oil change, OUCH!.. ZCanadian likes this. __________________ 2014 370z 2013 Boxster S

05-21-2017, 08:38 PM	#24 (permalink)
tonythetiger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SA, TX Posts: 1,035 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z PG MT Rep Power: 193	mustang 350r looks badass but iv heard they had overheating issues unless people didnt get the track package. 350r is the only mustang i would get for track purpose only. but honestly i wouldnt mind have a mid engine cayman for everyday driver/track. handling is superb in cayman, somtimes you dont need a lot of power to have fun. the only downfall is maintenance can be super expensive. a lot of porsche guys eventually sell their cars due to maintenance cost __________________ KWV3/Eibach/StillenG3/FI CBE+LTH+34Row/Uprev/SPL/SouthBendSS/QuaifeLSD/4.08/TommyKaira/Status/VolkZE40/AP Radical BBK/Seibon/Amuse/VIS/Sparco/WorksBellGTC/RJM/Nismo

05-26-2017, 07:26 PM	#28 (permalink)
wilsonp A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,134 Drives: 2009 Touring Sp Nav Rep Power: 17	I'm never in the market for a car with over two seats, so I picked the Cayman S. sunkist350z and UNKNOWN_370 like this. __________________ 2014 Cayman S PDK Sport Chrono White/Black Was 2009 370Z Touring Sport+Nav 7AT Metallic Black/Persimmon Was 1991 NSX Auto Black/Black

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05-21-2017, 10:25 AM	#18 (permalink)
triso07 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 174 Drives: xxxxxxx Rep Power: 15	How reliable has your Boxster been? Which car do you have more fun in? Which car do you enjoy owning more? Why? I feel like I just wrote test questions for a car SAT or something.

05-21-2017, 10:28 AM	#19 (permalink)
Nixin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: GWN Posts: 3,488 Drives: Goodbye Z! Rep Power: 19833	triso07, no one is ducking your original question,we have given you suggestions. That on its own should be answer enough. Only you can answer your own question and fill in the various voids. If your heart and mind is set on one of these two vehicles, maybe you should speak to the owners of such vehicles. Otherwise, do some more research and check out vehicle specific forums. GL with your search.

05-21-2017, 12:21 PM	#23 (permalink)
Magic Bus A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,427 Drives: 17 6MT M2 Rep Power: 18754	I've driven both & the 981s would be my choice. The power on the the 350 is nuts and fun, but if you're into handling & feel the 981s is tough to beat.

05-22-2017, 10:47 AM	#25 (permalink)
triso07 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 174 Drives: xxxxxxx Rep Power: 15	My understanding of that is people bought '16 tech package cars and then tracked them hard and were shocked when they overheated. If that's all there is to it, then where is the common sense? They offered a track pack that has all the necessary coolers, how is it Fords fault they tracked a car without the track pack?

05-22-2017, 04:35 PM	#26 (permalink)
Nixin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: GWN Posts: 3,488 Drives: Goodbye Z! Rep Power: 19833	Common sense is not that common in most people.

05-22-2017, 06:38 PM	#27 (permalink)
sunkist350z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Z-land Posts: 1,009 Drives: 2012 370z sport 6-sp Rep Power: 55341	I would take the regular base Caymen over the rustang , don't care how much faster the ford is.

05-27-2017, 10:27 AM	#29 (permalink)
triso07 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 174 Drives: xxxxxxx Rep Power: 15	lol well said wilsonp. There is something special about a 2 seater.

05-27-2017, 01:24 PM	#30 (permalink)
Redglare Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: FL Posts: 387 Drives: C172 Skyhawk GIII Rep Power: 175	Cayman for me also, look at the boss302 vs same gen cayman and look at how they aged/desirability - clear victor is the P car.