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triso07 05-21-2017 08:14 AM

That rustang revs to 8250. It has recaro seats, massive brembo brakes, and a magnetic ride suspension. I also think it looks and sounds amazing. It's just ... well ... big. The proportions are huge and that turns me off. Hard to drive a car like that fast on a twisty back road which is where I enjoy my cars the most. Then there's build quality. I'm not sure I trust Ford.

Drove a 981 Cayman GTS already and it was amazing. Great free revving engine that has a musical tone. Quick. Very refined. Interior and exterior are good looking without being too over the top. The H6 in there has been replaced with a turbo h4, so I think resale might be pretty damn good on these in the future. I guess the concern there is Porsche parts and maintenance. Cost of ownership could be significant.

jliu 05-21-2017 08:50 AM

Well, I have both a 2014 370z touring sport and a 2013 Boxster 981S. The Cayman S has about 10 more HP than the Boxster S. Other than that they are identical. I enjoy both cars equally. One thing the Porsche has over the Z is its intoxication tone of the flat 6 engine roars right behind you because of its mid-engine design. Both cars can go fast, but I think the Porsche is bit quicker, especially when cornering. Porsche interior is more refined and has better quality.
Yes, the cost of ownership is definitely higher with the Porsche. For example, the cost of materials of changing oil is twice on the Porsche compares to the Z. The main reason is the 981 takes almost 10 quarts of synthetic oil, and its oil filter costs about twice as an ordinary filter. Since I wrench myself the maintenance cost is not too bad. Based on the paper works I got from the previous owner Porsche charge him $350 for an oil change, OUCH!..

triso07 05-21-2017 09:25 AM

How reliable has your Boxster been?

Which car do you have more fun in?

Which car do you enjoy owning more? Why?

I feel like I just wrote test questions for a car SAT or something.

Nixin 05-21-2017 09:28 AM

triso07, no one is ducking your original question,we have given you suggestions. That on its own should be answer enough. Only you can answer your own question and fill in the various voids. If your heart and mind is set on one of these two vehicles, maybe you should speak to the owners of such vehicles. Otherwise, do some more research and check out vehicle specific forums. GL with your search.

SINISTER 05-21-2017 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jliu (Post 3655288)
Well, I have both a 2014 370z touring sport and a 2013 Boxster 981S. The Cayman S has about 10 more HP than the Boxster S. Other than that they are identical. I enjoy both cars equally. One thing the Porsche has over the Z is its intoxication tone of the flat 6 engine roars right behind you because of its mid-engine design. Both cars can go fast, but I think the Porsche is bit quicker, especially when cornering. Porsche interior is more refined and has better quality.
Yes, the cost of ownership is definitely higher with the Porsche. For example, the cost of materials of changing oil is twice on the Porsche compares to the Z. The main reason is the 981 takes almost 10 quarts of synthetic oil, and its oil filter costs about twice as an ordinary filter. Since I wrench myself the maintenance cost is not too bad. Based on the paper works I got from the previous owner Porsche charge him $350 for an oil change, OUCH!..

Is the transmission fluid change as big of a nightmare as the Mercedes transmission 722.9...?
Because you have to drain the torque tube and drain the pan, but then actually remove the pan, clean pan, change filter,pump the fluid through the same drain hole (so special attachment and pump needed) then get the temp of the engine up to 45C then open drain plug and confirm that it is just "spurting" out and note draining out...subjective, messy, costly, PITA...

triso07 05-21-2017 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixin (Post 3655294)
triso07, no one is ducking your original question,we have given you suggestions. That on its own should be answer enough. Only you can answer your own question and fill in the various voids. If your heart and mind is set on one of these two vehicles, maybe you should speak to the owners of such vehicles. Otherwise, do some more research and check out vehicle specific forums. GL with your search.

Thanks. It was just a joke.

jliu 05-21-2017 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SINISTER (Post 3655296)
Is the transmission fluid change as big of a nightmare as the Mercedes transmission 722.9...?
Because you have to drain the torque tube and drain the pan, but then actually remove the pan, clean pan, change filter,pump the fluid through the same drain hole (so special attachment and pump needed) then get the temp of the engine up to 45C then open drain plug and confirm that it is just "spurting" out and note draining out...subjective, messy, costly, PITA...

I have a 6sp manual and it is simply drain and fill. I am not sure what is involve of a transmission fluid change with the PDK transmission.

Magic Bus 05-21-2017 11:21 AM

I've driven both & the 981s would be my choice. The power on the the 350 is nuts and fun, but if you're into handling & feel the 981s is tough to beat.

tonythetiger 05-21-2017 07:38 PM

mustang 350r looks badass but iv heard they had overheating issues unless people didnt get the track package. 350r is the only mustang i would get for track purpose only.

but honestly i wouldnt mind have a mid engine cayman for everyday driver/track. handling is superb in cayman, somtimes you dont need a lot of power to have fun. the only downfall is maintenance can be super expensive. a lot of porsche guys eventually sell their cars due to maintenance cost

triso07 05-22-2017 09:47 AM

My understanding of that is people bought '16 tech package cars and then tracked them hard and were shocked when they overheated. If that's all there is to it, then where is the common sense? They offered a track pack that has all the necessary coolers, how is it Fords fault they tracked a car without the track pack?

Nixin 05-22-2017 03:35 PM

Common sense is not that common in most people.

sunkist350z 05-22-2017 05:38 PM

I would take the regular base Caymen over the rustang , don't care how much faster the ford is.

wilsonp 05-26-2017 06:26 PM

I'm never in the market for a car with over two seats, so I picked the Cayman S.

triso07 05-27-2017 09:27 AM

lol well said wilsonp. There is something special about a 2 seater.

Redglare 05-27-2017 12:24 PM

Cayman for me also,

look at the boss302 vs same gen cayman and look at how they aged/desirability - clear victor is the P car.


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