997 911 s

triso07

The used market for 06-07 911's looks really good right now. There's some good examples out there with under 25k miles under 50k.

Does anyone have any experience with these cars?

Nixin

Be prepared to take out a line of credit for the repairs and maintenance of these cars.

Cyber370

Agreed!!! I have a friend who bought a slightly used '07 911 S two years ago. It was in pristine condition with about 25k miles. It really looked brand new and only had one previous owner. I drove it a few times and it was Ok but I'm not a Porsche guy so I wasn't blown away. Anyway, it had no warranty and the intermittent problems started about a month later. It had starting issues and a multitude of electronic gremlins. I knew about the problems first hand because I was his car goto guy since he wasn't car savvy.

After about $3k-4k of dealer repair costs later, some of the issues still persisted. He traded the car in a year later. He wasn't too impressed with his experience.

Not saying that they're all like that. Maybe my buddy got a lemon. Don't know. But, they are not as bulletproof as everyone makes them out to be and maintenance is definitely more expensive than normal. Just my 2 cents.


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triso07

The motor sounds great and I love the proportions. The idea of getting in fairly cheap on price point and not losing much value over time is also appealing, but yeah cost concerns weight heavy on me.

Nixin

It's pay more now for a new one or pay more later for a used one.

wanker

Porsches are beautiful and elegant cars, but like any German car, are extremely expensive to maintain. Every person I know who had a Porsche eventually sold them because of the cost, it becomes a real drain unless you wrench your own car -- and even then.

That's one of the reasons I went to a Z from a BMW. When it costs nearly $500 to swap a battery and $800 for a brake job, you begin question the value of owning a car simply for its status.

cv129

Try Rennlist and 6speedonline for more info on those cars.

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DCNISMO

I'm on my second one. Get a manual 997.2, as there is no IMS issues and no PDK issues. Parts are not that expensive and if you can wrench on a Z, you can wrench on a 911. It's true that a Porsche dealer hourly rate is expensive but you can find porsche trained indy shops that cost much less.

Nixin

Wrenching on your own is one thing. What do you do for original components? Do you manufacture those? OE Porsche components are quite expensive.

DCNISMO

Depends on what you buying OEM, or you can buy Mahle or other brands for parts. The usual things like spark plugs, rotors, pads, belts, filters, nuts and bolts, and oil is not that much more than higher priced Z parts. Now if you start modding and use Tarett, Rennline, GMG, Champion, and others....yes it costs more.

triso07

DCNISMO how's your overall experience? Reliable? Still fun?

I'm about to be in the market soon and I'm really cross shopping this or a Nismo Z.

tonythetiger

you could always go for a cayman, pretty decent handling cars

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triso07

Oh believe me, the cayman is absolutely in the picture. I drove a 981 GTS and it was fantastic fun. That motor screams. It's so characterful.

That particular model is out of my range. I'd have to go used S for mid 50's, or go for an older one.

At that point though I think about the '07 997s because the price point is so good. I know they made a ton of them, but technically it's the last hydraulic steering 911 with small proportions. The new ones, while hot, are more like GT cars. I'm thinking if I get in on a 997 at 47k with about 20k miles I won't lose much value on the car over the course of ownership.

The thought of extremely expensive repair bills is frightening, but most say Porsche is bullet proof.

DCNISMO

new GTS....is a bit to GT....

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Most people that buy this brand new for the most part, just pose anyhow.

eZg

you know why the 2007 seems like a good deal? Like mentioned in previous post they have IMS bearing issues. Guess how much to fix IF yours goes bad? about $20K.

The 997.2 has no IMS bearing.

But go for it, if you still think it's a good value.