To Nismo or Not to Nismo?

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-09-2017, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triso07

Any differences in the brakes on the Nismo?

I know there is re-tuned suspension but is there different hardware?

Just the pads are S tune. There's an option for R tune.

triso07 · 05-09-2017, 07:47 AM

So if I have this right benefits of the Nismo are:

Lighter bucket seats
Titanium Exhaust
Lighter forged wheels
Stiffer chasis (reinforcements)
Better brake pads, fluid, and hoses
Higher spring rate tuning

RicerX · 05-09-2017, 09:52 AM

The 350Z Nismo got chassis reinforcements (seam welds). I don't believe any version of the 370Z Nismo got additional chassis reinforcements. IIRC, Nissan claimed the 370Z chassis' rigidity surpassed that of the 350Z Nismo, and they never went any further with that.

The 2015+ Nismo got different final drive ratios, with the most aggressive change being in the 7AT version. The 6MT still gets a bump from the regular sport version. I don't know what the ratios are and I'm too lazy to google them right now.

The Rays Wheels on the Nismo 370Zs are wider for both front and rear, but I don't know if they're lighter than the sport package rays. They're probably lighter than the cast 18" wheels on the base models though.

Suspension is definitely stiffer on the Nismo. I want to say sway bars are different as well, but I might be making that up.

Brakes - on a standard Nismo they're no different than a sport package, however, you can equip the optional "Nismo R Tune" pads and some fluid, but honestly, I'd save the extra cash for some Motul RBF600, Carbotech pads, and a set of SS lines.

The exhaust is not titanium on any version of the 370Z. You might be thinking of the GT-R Nismo there.

Chuck33079 · 05-09-2017, 09:54 AM

The Nismo doesn't have the 3 additional chassis braces anymore? It did for the pre-'15s.

Also, I'd be shocked if the new seats are that much lighter than the old ones.

RicerX · 05-09-2017, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The Nismo doesn't have the 3 additional chassis braces anymore? It did for the pre-'15s.

Also, I'd be shocked if the new seats are that much lighter than the old ones.

You're right Chuck - they do. I glossed over that part.

triso07 · 05-09-2017, 12:37 PM

So shorter gears ricer? I like the sound of that.

So not much of a difference from the sport Z yet there does seem to be a general consensus amongst people who review them that the driving experience is much sharper.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-09-2017, 06:28 PM

The extra weight on the Nismo is the body bracing. The added 18HP was put there solely to make up for the weight of the body bracing. They tried to give you the power equivalent of the lighter car while improving rigidity the extra 18HP was not put there to add performance, just equalize it..

RicerX · 05-10-2017, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triso07

So shorter gears ricer? I like the sound of that.

So not much of a difference from the sport Z yet there does seem to be a general consensus amongst people who review them that the driving experience is much sharper.

I got less lazy today - pulled this from Car and Driver on the release of the 2015 Nismo.

Nissan has shortened the final-drive ratio for the manual version from 3.69:1 to 3.92:1.... At 3.69:1, the automatic’s final drive is also shorter than the standard 370Z automatic’s 3.36:1 rear end.

triso07 · 05-10-2017, 11:44 AM

More shifting for the win lol.

Wonder what 6th is like on the highway though.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-10-2017, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RicerX

I got less lazy today - pulled this from Car and Driver on the release of the 2015 Nismo.

Nissan has shortened the final-drive ratio for the manual version from 3.69:1 to 3.92:1.... At 3.69:1, the automatic’s final drive is also shorter than the standard 370Z automatic’s 3.36:1 rear end.

This is one of the main reasons I'm considering the Nismo aside from the body bracing.

Hotrodz · 05-10-2017, 04:31 PM

I am a fan of the 09-14 model because it body style and suspension even though I have upgraded pretty much everything on it. I had considered changing the front bumper to the 15 model style but I'm concerned that it would provide as much air flow through the engine compartment. If you are considering a turbo setup I think an 09-14 is the way to go so you can spend your money on turbo kit and supporting mods. Also, I have actually considered swapping my final drive to the taller gears that come with the auto because with twins 1st and second gear are pretty worthless even on the track.

Hotrodz · 05-10-2017, 04:38 PM

I have always been a fan of silver because it looks good even when it dirty and minor scratches and dings are invisible to most. I can take or leave the red accents on the new models and prefer black accents on the exterior and the red with interior.

I regularly catch people taking pictures and video of the car!

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05-09-2017, 09:54 AM	#64 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	The Nismo doesn't have the 3 additional chassis braces anymore? It did for the pre-'15s. Also, I'd be shocked if the new seats are that much lighter than the old ones. UNKNOWN_370 and RicerX like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

05-09-2017, 12:37 PM	#66 (permalink)
triso07 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 174 Drives: xxxxxxx Rep Power: 14	So shorter gears ricer? I like the sound of that. So not much of a difference from the sport Z yet there does seem to be a general consensus amongst people who review them that the driving experience is much sharper. RicerX likes this.

05-09-2017, 06:28 PM	#67 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	The extra weight on the Nismo is the body bracing. The added 18HP was put there solely to make up for the weight of the body bracing. They tried to give you the power equivalent of the lighter car while improving rigidity the extra 18HP was not put there to add performance, just equalize it.. Hotrodz and Nixin like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

05-10-2017, 04:31 PM	#71 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	I am a fan of the 09-14 model because it body style and suspension even though I have upgraded pretty much everything on it. I had considered changing the front bumper to the 15 model style but I'm concerned that it would provide as much air flow through the engine compartment. If you are considering a turbo setup I think an 09-14 is the way to go so you can spend your money on turbo kit and supporting mods. Also, I have actually considered swapping my final drive to the taller gears that come with the auto because with twins 1st and second gear are pretty worthless even on the track. BlackZeda, Rusty and Stright_Drop like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\| Last edited by Hotrodz; 05-10-2017 at 04:42 PM. Reason: More info*

05-09-2017, 07:47 AM	#62 (permalink)
triso07 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 174 Drives: xxxxxxx Rep Power: 14	So if I have this right benefits of the Nismo are: Lighter bucket seats Titanium Exhaust Lighter forged wheels Stiffer chasis (reinforcements) Better brake pads, fluid, and hoses Higher spring rate tuning

05-09-2017, 09:52 AM	#63 (permalink)
RicerX Track Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: TN Posts: 597 Drives: To the Pizza joint. Rep Power: 7720	The 350Z Nismo got chassis reinforcements (seam welds). I don't believe any version of the 370Z Nismo got additional chassis reinforcements. IIRC, Nissan claimed the 370Z chassis' rigidity surpassed that of the 350Z Nismo, and they never went any further with that. The 2015+ Nismo got different final drive ratios, with the most aggressive change being in the 7AT version. The 6MT still gets a bump from the regular sport version. I don't know what the ratios are and I'm too lazy to google them right now. The Rays Wheels on the Nismo 370Zs are wider for both front and rear, but I don't know if they're lighter than the sport package rays. They're probably lighter than the cast 18" wheels on the base models though. Suspension is definitely stiffer on the Nismo. I want to say sway bars are different as well, but I might be making that up. Brakes - on a standard Nismo they're no different than a sport package, however, you can equip the optional "Nismo R Tune" pads and some fluid, but honestly, I'd save the extra cash for some Motul RBF600, Carbotech pads, and a set of SS lines. The exhaust is not titanium on any version of the 370Z. You might be thinking of the GT-R Nismo there.

05-10-2017, 11:44 AM	#69 (permalink)
triso07 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New York Posts: 174 Drives: xxxxxxx Rep Power: 14	More shifting for the win lol. Wonder what 6th is like on the highway though.

05-10-2017, 04:38 PM	#72 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	I have always been a fan of silver because it looks good even when it dirty and minor scratches and dings are invisible to most. I can take or leave the red accents on the new models and prefer black accents on the exterior and the red with interior. I regularly catch people taking pictures and video of the car! BlackZeda likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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