Kia Stinger.... Theyre passing Nissan.
 

Let's see....

Kia's Maxima competitor is a RWD/AWD 8 speed auto a 365hp/376lbs of torque with LSD RWD and torque vectoring AWD. Gets to 60 in Z time and has a higher top speed than Z. 167mph.

We're not being outdone by Hyundai. We're being outdone by there bottom of the barrel brand. Kia.

Nissan is a joke.... Public Enemy, Change your song title from 911 is a joke, to Nissan is a joke. Smh. Game Over!!!

http://jalopnik.com/the-kia-stinger-...eel-1790949403

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Will Kia be introducing a 2,874lb coupe with similar specs shortly after? Like when they introduced the Genesis coupe???

https://www.google.com/amp/www.digit...ws-rumors/amp/

Game Over!!! smh.

Hyundai or kia are king of copy cats of car companies, this looks like a mich mosh of a Maserati ghbilia & the new alfa romeo and their own k900. Will never sell over the bmw.

WTF is Nissan doing?? Why have they dropped the ball on redesigning a new Z? They are going to start to lose loyal customers to other car companies if they don't start coming up with some new innovations.

I rather drive a great featured copy than a wacky do current Nissan Max. N I disagree with your analysis. This car looks like the optima which was Kia's FIRST ORIGINAL DESIGN. If anything. Our maxima copied Kia. How pathetic is that???

And if you're copying Maserati? You're doing it right!!!

N outsell BMW? I doubt this car is priced in BMW range. This is probably base Q60 range or top line maxima.

Exactly that.... Nissan is dropping balls everywhere. They just got beat at there own game. This car is a Q60 competitor!!! Possibly for less money.... And a potential coupe that weighs FRS light with 375hp? Sounds like a Cayman killer to me!!!

People can hang on to Hyundai insults all day long while getting beat at the track n making excuses....

Nissan driver friend asks....Dude.... why you lost to a Kia?
Nissan driver....I sprain my wrist n it made me granny shift.:roflpuke2:

NDF.... Dude that blows.

ND. It also didn't help that Nissan neglected the Z to squeeze another 50 miles out of a leaf that no one buys either....

NDF.... Dude buy a Kia... and win.

Nissan driver commits suicide. :bowrofl::bowrofl:

Nissan, you gutless bastards. You're going out like Honda and pre 2012 Toyota.

Your exactly right about the cayman killer, hell I think with the right driver and setup it might give a 911 a bit of a run. I just don't know what to think anymore Nissan is letting a timeless car slip through there fingers. I bet Mr. K is rolling over in his grave right about now.

He's probably trying to make his soul commit suicide. Poor man. Thanks Carlos Ghosn. You're a great soulless businessman.

Yea this makes me sad...

Heres a preview video ....

https://youtu.be/2FPCawYSfXw

This makes me sick... Nissan could do so much to out class both of these cars....

But they're not and as I narrow down my selections. The Alfa will be one of my two purchases. I'm just trying to figure out my coupe.

I should correct my statement... the KIA makes me sick.. I love Alfa's.

Other than red and 4 doors. I don't really see it at all but.... either way.... I'm pretty sure Infiniti won't be making a comparable Q60 to the Alfa. And I'm sure Kia will be an outstanding value. Let's face it. It's not just Nissan failing us.

Mitsubishi.... No AWD eclipse. No Evo.

Subaru... CVT WRX instead of auto or DCT option. Outdated STi

Mazda. No mazdaspeed3, no v6 Mazda 6, no mazdaspeed 6, no Rx 9, no mazdaspeed miata.

Nissan outdated underfeatured vehicles. Old Z, aging GTR.

Toyota... so far has made underperforming sports cars for the power level.

Honda. The NSX was a computer game on wheels way more than the GTR will ever be plus overpriced and nothing like the original NSX.

Because of Japan's blatant pussification of cars.... Korea is gonna prove themselves in the sports arena.