Kia Stinger.... Theyre passing Nissan.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-23-2018, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Interesting info.

Definitely, used is the way to go. It'll probably depreciate like a rock. But good on them for making it. You are right on the engine choice.

Here's the comparison of GT 3.3T AWD to the 370Z NISMO:
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel4693-6976.htm

Put the regular 2.0 turbo in and, oops, it don't look no good no more!
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel4693-7081.htm

The Alf a is doing horribly in resale... I may purchase soon.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-23-2018, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

style is absolutely subjective, but if trash is wrong to say then you won't want my full honest opinion

but seriously it's trash. at any angle i see other cars styling that was stole/copied. nothing is original or exciting on this car.

as for the price/performance/etc i can go tomorrow get an AWD 2016 BMW 550 with a TT V8 for 40-45k.

now that is well worth the money vs a Kia

EDIT: or a 2015 550 for 30-36k low miles

I feel you.... But the new vs used debate is not equal nor reasonable. It's the same as comparing a Z to a mustang. Just doesn't make sense.

I think no one had the balls in the sibpremium market except Kia. Imho, the STINGER looks like a hatch version of their own optima. Which was an original design when it arrived in 2010. I believe other car companies actually copied and luxurified the optima design. Any car you can compare to the STINGER in styling is newer than that older optima. It's like the took the optima a different direction and continued the old body style to make this car... just sayin.

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-23-2018, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I feel you.... But the new vs used debate is not equal nor reasonable. It's the same as comparing a Z to a mustang. Just doesn't make sense.

I think no one had the balls in the sibpremium market except Kia. Imho, the STINGER looks like a hatch version of their own optima. Which was an original design when it arrived in 2010. I believe other car companies actually copied and luxurified the optima design. Any car you can compare to the STINGER in styling is newer than that older optima. It's like the took the optima a different direction and continued the old body style to make this car... just sayin.

They have a very similar shape in 8 years difference.34548443_Kia_Optima_OVR.jpg 2018-Kia-Stinger-GT-front-three-quarter-02-864x576.jpg

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Asus_ · 04-24-2018, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by *J*ap***V*et*

I love the Z. For what it does it does it well. Could there be improvements? Absolutely. I just have a feeling that the Z heritage has probably run it's course and they're won't be another one. So as car enthusiasts what do we do..

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

My biggest fear is the Z will meet the same fate as the eclipse.

Even more the reason to hold on to your Z. I def plan on keeping this car. The heritage will always be there, always has, always will and it'll age like good wine. There are ppl who still have even the very older z cars and others still buying them now. imo an enthusiasts doesn't really hop around car's like the flavor of the year. When you find that right car for you, while you still appreciate other cars of course but the rest wont matter and you'll always remain loyal to the car that makes you want to drop all your money on

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-24-2018, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Asus_

Even more the reason to hold on to your Z. I def plan on keeping this car. The heritage will always be there, always has, always will and it'll age like good wine. There are ppl who still have even the very older z cars and others still buying them now. imo an enthusiasts doesn't really hop around car's like the flavor of the year. When you find that right car for you, while you still appreciate other cars of course but the rest wont matter and you'll always remain loyal to the car that makes you want to drop all your money on

I sold my Z, but I may purchase a Nismo depending on when z35 concept is ever revealed and the supra.

*J*ap***V*et* · 04-24-2018, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Asus_

Even more the reason to hold on to your Z. I def plan on keeping this car. The heritage will always be there, always has, always will and it'll age like good wine. There are ppl who still have even the very older z cars and others still buying them now. imo an enthusiasts doesn't really hop around car's like the flavor of the year. When you find that right car for you, while you still appreciate other cars of course but the rest wont matter and you'll always remain loyal to the car that makes you want to drop all your money on

That's brand loyalty. An enthusiast just loves vehicles regardless. Many various automobiles invoke passion for numerous reasons. Changing brands means absolutely nothing. If a new model of a different manufacturer is released and it is a truly awesome machine then who really cares about brand loyalty. Life is too short to drive boring cars. I grew up in a Chevrolet house but my dad had owned many different models of cars including a 300zx but he loved cars in general and if something was better and he wanted it then he usually got it. Keep the Z, I love mine but if they don't intend on making a newer one eventually I wouldn't rule out other manufacturers to get what I want out of the car...but that's me.

God-Speed · 04-24-2018, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by *J*ap***V*et*

That's brand loyalty. An enthusiast just loves vehicles regardless. Many various automobiles invoke passion for numerous reasons. Changing brands means absolutely nothing. If a new model of a different manufacturer is released and it is a truly awesome machine then who really cares about brand loyalty. Life is too short to drive boring cars. I grew up in a Chevrolet house but my dad had owned many different models of cars including a 300zx but he loved cars in general and if something was better and he wanted it then he usually got it. Keep the Z, I love mine but if they don't intend on making a newer one eventually I wouldn't rule out other manufacturers to get what I want out of the car...but that's me.

Nicely put.

*J*ap***V*et* · 04-24-2018, 04:11 PM

Thanks man! I see his point but with new technology and design will always provide a faster and better machine. To drive a Ferrari doesn't doesn't mean you can't appreciate Lamborghini. This is my first Nissan but I've always tried to make sure that whatever I drove I enjoyed. Brand doesn't matter to me..it's all about the car. We get caught up in this specific mindset that something that may have been considered your crap grocery getter is competing with other manufacturers that 20 plus years ago were out of their league...but that game has changed long ago my friend lol

Asus_ · 04-24-2018, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by *J*ap***V*et*

That's brand loyalty. An enthusiast just loves vehicles regardless

I don't even know what your reading, I said an enthusiast loves vehicles regardless as well, just worded differently

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Originally Posted by Asus_

When you find that right car for you, while you still appreciate other cars of course but the rest wont matter and you'll always remain loyal to the car that makes you want to drop all your money on

Basically, shouldn't matter what brand new flashy tech comes out, you'll always still love the car you love. I made NO mention of being loyal to a brand nor did i imply it, i said loyal to the CAR & you can still appreciate other cars too. If anything I personally don't like Nissan as a "brand" for neglecting the z for as long as they did, they make great cars like the 370Z and the GTR but that's it.

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Originally Posted by *J*ap***V*et*

I love mine but if they don't intend on making a newer one eventually I wouldn't rule out other manufacturers to get what I want out of the car...but that's me.

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Originally Posted by *J*ap***V*et*

probably run it's course and they're won't be another one. So as car enthusiasts what do we do..

Nothing dude . . . nothing changes. As a true enthusiasts you'll still love the car that you've come appreciate and enjoy. So what Nissan chooses to do afterwords or what other car comes out ... shouldn't matter to you. If you like another car you can buy it too but nothing changes to the car that you've come to love. This is assuming you bought the car because you actually like the car not because it was the fastest for the money at the time lmfao.

*J*ap***V*et* · 04-24-2018, 10:36 PM

I just honestly couldn't imagine owning the same car forever. There will always be something better. Until the day I get a GTR or Gallardo I'll keep the Z lol

Asus_ · 04-25-2018, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by *J*ap***V*et*

I just honestly couldn't imagine owning the same car forever. There will always be something better. Until the day I get a GTR or Gallardo I'll keep the Z lol

Well to be honest its very easy to get sick of anything really, for example manual transmission in rush hour traffic is annoying, but then there's a nice summer night cruise i love it all over again, but because i only summer my car, i still enjoy it years later... so you don't HAVE to get rid of it

moderation is key, having multiple cars will help with this lol but thats just my opinion

*J*ap***V*et* · 04-25-2018, 12:22 AM

Oh if only good sir...if only lmao

Nixin · 04-25-2018, 07:56 AM

IMHO, I don't believe that the Kia Stinger deserves 8 pages in this forum.

JARblue · 04-25-2018, 08:56 AM

It's only 3 pages if you set max posts per page.

Still probably doesn't deserve that much ...

UNKNOWN_370 · 04-25-2018, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixin

IMHO, I don't believe that the Kia Stinger deserves 8 pages in this forum.

I'll tell you why it's getting 8 pages though....

Fully loaded New RWD Performance sedans under 50k

Q50s
Giulia Ti
Stinger GT

It's a shrinking segment.
Kia stepped up.

04-24-2018, 04:11 PM	#113 (permalink)
Jap**Vet* Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Illinois Posts: 479 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 115133	Thanks man! I see his point but with new technology and design will always provide a faster and better machine. To drive a Ferrari doesn't doesn't mean you can't appreciate Lamborghini. This is my first Nissan but I've always tried to make sure that whatever I drove I enjoyed. Brand doesn't matter to me..it's all about the car. We get caught up in this specific mindset that something that may have been considered your crap grocery getter is competing with other manufacturers that 20 plus years ago were out of their league...but that game has changed long ago my friend lol UNKNOWN_370 and DLSTR like this.

04-25-2018, 07:56 AM	#118 (permalink)
Nixin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: GWN Posts: 3,488 Drives: Goodbye Z! Rep Power: 19833	IMHO, I don't believe that the Kia Stinger deserves 8 pages in this forum. FPenvy and Asus_ like this.

04-25-2018, 08:56 AM	#119 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	It's only 3 pages if you set max posts per page. Still probably doesn't deserve that much ... Asus_ likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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