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Danthe370zman 11-15-2016 07:09 PM

2017 NISMO Sentra
 
2017 Nissan Sentra Nismo | Nissan USA

Coming January 2017... what do you guys think, anyone interested in one?

BlackZeda 11-15-2016 07:16 PM

If you are in the market for a Sentra, you might as well make it a NISMO.

I am not in the market for a Sentra.

MarksZ34 11-15-2016 07:23 PM

Not interested but I think it insults the owners of newer nismos since it shares a little too much with the red accents and front canards.

Nissan strives to make the rest of their car line more robust and performance oriented with new higher hp nismo versions like the juke and now sentra but the 370 platform & its nismo edition continue to languish with age!

xxAGAVExx 11-15-2016 07:24 PM

I've got a 15 Sentra as my DD, maybe I'll upgrade to the Nismo and throw those seats in my Z :)


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RicerX 11-16-2016 08:55 AM

This car is a fvcking joke, and I'm about to tell you all why.

The only saving grace behind this car is the fact that it's offered with a manual. That's it, and even that feature is about four model years too late in the grand scheme of the landscape in which the Sentra competes. The Mazda 3, Ford Focus, and Honda Civic can all be had in manual guise. BUT - that 6 speed manual is cool if it's mated to a limited slip differential (even a viscuous one!) inside its transaxle, but it's not. HELLO UNDERSTEER. Understeer that doesn't even have to be as bad as it normally is in FWD cars with decent torque.

SPEAKING OF TORQUE... 177 lb-ft? In a 3000lb Sentra? What fvcking year is this?

This car will be $25k. What does it do better than a Subaru WRX, a Civic Si, or a Focus ST? FVCKING NOTHING. Not a goddamn thing.

Kill the NISMO brand, Nissan. You're only using it as an excuse to say you provided **** people wanted in their cars that should be equipped at lower trim levels and putting red striping on it. Stick to your beloved crossovers. The 370Z is 98 fvcking years old already, but you're busy putting 90s power in your subcompact sedan and calling it a performance model. Just fvck off and die.

madeinjapan 11-16-2016 09:08 AM

:wtf2:

triso07 11-16-2016 11:50 AM

Nissan should only be using Nismo for the Z and GTR and only if it amounts to more than an appearance package.

BuckeyeZ 11-16-2016 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3578666)
This car is a fvcking joke, and I'm about to tell you all why.

The only saving grace behind this car is the fact that it's offered with a manual. That's it, and even that feature is about four model years too late in the grand scheme of the landscape in which the Sentra competes. The Mazda 3, Ford Focus, and Honda Civic can all be had in manual guise. BUT - that 6 speed manual is cool if it's mated to a limited slip differential (even a viscuous one!) inside its transaxle, but it's not. HELLO UNDERSTEER. Understeer that doesn't even have to be as bad as it normally is in FWD cars with decent torque.

SPEAKING OF TORQUE... 177 lb-ft? In a 3000lb Sentra? What fvcking year is this?

This car will be $25k. What does it do better than a Subaru WRX, a Civic Si, or a Focus ST? FVCKING NOTHING. Not a goddamn thing.

Kill the NISMO brand, Nissan. You're only using it as an excuse to say you provided **** people wanted in their cars that should be equipped at lower trim levels and putting red striping on it. Stick to your beloved crossovers. The 370Z is 98 fvcking years old already, but you're busy putting 90s power in your subcompact sedan and calling it a performance model. Just fvck off and die.

Have a Snickers!

tomas6791 11-16-2016 02:16 PM

2017 Nissan Sentra NISMO Highlights and Walk Around

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWZcTmU1B2s

madeinjapan 11-16-2016 02:37 PM

ugly seats

Spooler 11-16-2016 03:02 PM

I am getting one of dos. U all Cazy not to want 1.

/Angelo350Z/ 11-16-2016 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3578805)
I am getting one of dos. U all Cazy not to want 1.

Just curious, why do you like it? For the price, you could get something better.

DEpointfive0 11-16-2016 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3578666)
This car is a fvcking joke, and I'm about to tell you all why.

The only saving grace behind this car is the fact that it's offered with a manual. That's it, and even that feature is about four model years too late in the grand scheme of the landscape in which the Sentra competes. The Mazda 3, Ford Focus, and Honda Civic can all be had in manual guise. BUT - that 6 speed manual is cool if it's mated to a limited slip differential (even a viscuous one!) inside its transaxle, but it's not. HELLO UNDERSTEER. Understeer that doesn't even have to be as bad as it normally is in FWD cars with decent torque.

SPEAKING OF TORQUE... 177 lb-ft? In a 3000lb Sentra? What fvcking year is this?

This car will be $25k. What does it do better than a Subaru WRX, a Civic Si, or a Focus ST? FVCKING NOTHING. Not a goddamn thing.

Kill the NISMO brand, Nissan. You're only using it as an excuse to say you provided **** people wanted in their cars that should be equipped at lower trim levels and putting red striping on it. Stick to your beloved crossovers. The 370Z is 98 fvcking years old already, but you're busy putting 90s power in your subcompact sedan and calling it a performance model. Just fvck off and die.

:iagree: 100%

Zerafian 11-16-2016 04:12 PM

ugh, so ugly..and those specs are so 90s

/Angelo350Z/ 11-16-2016 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerafian (Post 3578851)
ugh, so ugly..and those specs are so 90s

Yeah, and I still would've bought a GSR Integra or GSX Eclipse over the Nismo Sentra.

kenchan 11-16-2016 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danthe370zman (Post 3578463)
2017 Nissan Sentra Nismo | Nissan USA

Coming January 2017... what do you guys think, anyone interested in one?

Nissan should wait till April 1

axmea? 11-16-2016 11:47 PM

Put wire wheels and basso tips.

Spooler 11-17-2016 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/ (Post 3578831)
Just curious, why do you like it? For the price, you could get something better.

LOL, that was my Kenchan response. No, I do not want one.

UNKNOWN_370 11-17-2016 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3578666)
This car is a fvcking joke, and I'm about to tell you all why.

The only saving grace behind this car is the fact that it's offered with a manual. That's it, and even that feature is about four model years too late in the grand scheme of the landscape in which the Sentra competes. The Mazda 3, Ford Focus, and Honda Civic can all be had in manual guise. BUT - that 6 speed manual is cool if it's mated to a limited slip differential (even a viscuous one!) inside its transaxle, but it's not. HELLO UNDERSTEER. Understeer that doesn't even have to be as bad as it normally is in FWD cars with decent torque.

SPEAKING OF TORQUE... 177 lb-ft? In a 3000lb Sentra? What fvcking year is this?

This car will be $25k. What does it do better than a Subaru WRX, a Civic Si, or a Focus ST? FVCKING NOTHING. Not a goddamn thing.

Kill the NISMO brand, Nissan. You're only using it as an excuse to say you provided **** people wanted in their cars that should be equipped at lower trim levels and putting red striping on it. Stick to your beloved crossovers. The 370Z is 98 fvcking years old already, but you're busy putting 90s power in your subcompact sedan and calling it a performance model. Just fvck off and die.


LMAO.... How many REDBULLS was that????

Nissan is disappointing their fans without a doubt. But I'm willing to wait for a review.

RicerX 11-18-2016 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3579303)
LMAO.... How many REDBULLS was that????

All of them :rofl2:

Seriously though - I'm pretty spun up on it because I was counting on them to come through with this particular car. I'm very involved in the world of Nissan on another site, and a lot of us have been waiting for them to show us something that can be affordable and fun. We have seen competitors left and right toss out fun cars over the last 5-7 years and Nissan has been notably absent.

They've been content to ram crossovers down our throats for over a decade. The next gen Z has languished in what is obviously an identity crisis from a product planning standpoint - the biggest hint we've gotten is the GripZ, which is them turning the philosophy of what the Z has been for 40 years and implementing it into a crossover. The most they've experimented with any vehicle has been the Juke - there's no amount of flavorings you cannot have that car in. I'm convinced that they kept the power down on the Sentra to position it below the Juke - think about it. The Juke can be had with nearly 215hp and a helical LSD while this Sentra sits at 188hp and open diff, for example.

The B13 SE-R - there was so little, if anything, like it on the market at the time. Same with the S13. Same with the Z32 (until the pricing killed it along with the rise of the SUV). The modern implementations of those vehicles DO NOT COMPETE at the price point. Sure there are justifications for why one would buy a 370Z over a Camaro SS, or why one would buy a Sentra NISMO over a Focus ST, but the overwhelming majority of buyers in these markets wants to stretch their dollar to the extreme in fun factor that they can.

Nissan has been absent here, and they've gotten too big as a company to adequately respond to changes in the market landscape and competitors within that landscape for anything except a crossover. Look at the Titan - a fantastic offering even 5 years ago, but now that it's finally come to market, it's barely competitive when you stack it up to Ford and Chevy. In fact, I feel the XD version of the truck was an absolute hail mary to force a niche into one of the most ruthless markets in the North American automotive landscape. I feel it wouldn't otherwise garner any attention if they just showed up with the new 5.6L half ton truck. They're pasting an extended bumper-to-bumper warranty on it to put up a shred of a fight, but equipment for equipment, truck for truck, it's another also-ran from a company that's been also-running for 10+ years.

The site I work for was founded out of enthusiasts that were attracted to Nissan's bang-for-the-buck and well rounded products that offered fun, performance, and usability in a well-priced package. The overwhelming majority of Nissan's products are uninspiring, underwhelming, and paint a bleak picture for the future of volume cars that illustrates soulless, uninvolving, and uninspiring driving experiences. It preaches utility and convenience. It shows a culture of building machines as appliances rather than enhancements to life experience like they used to be.

NISMO was supposed to be the exception to all of those things. I understand a business has to make money, but at the level they're selling Altimas to rental car companies and Rogues to Star Wars fans, they can afford to have a niche performance marque that doesn't forget about the people that drive as a means of having fun. Nissan seems to think you shouldn't do that unless you have a cool $100k burning a hole in your pocket for a GT-R.

TL;DR - Nissan is boring as **** when it used to be exciting. They're like a volume Subaru - put out a sweet concept and when it hits production it turns into vanilla.

kenchan 11-19-2016 07:55 PM

nismo is too much show and no go

JerryDeluxe 11-19-2016 09:02 PM

Great commuter

UNKNOWN_370 11-19-2016 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3579502)
All of them :rofl2:

Seriously though - I'm pretty spun up on it because I was counting on them to come through with this particular car. I'm very involved in the world of Nissan on another site, and a lot of us have been waiting for them to show us something that can be affordable and fun. We have seen competitors left and right toss out fun cars over the last 5-7 years and Nissan has been notably absent.

They've been content to ram crossovers down our throats for over a decade. The next gen Z has languished in what is obviously an identity crisis from a product planning standpoint - the biggest hint we've gotten is the GripZ, which is them turning the philosophy of what the Z has been for 40 years and implementing it into a crossover. The most they've experimented with any vehicle has been the Juke - there's no amount of flavorings you cannot have that car in. I'm convinced that they kept the power down on the Sentra to position it below the Juke - think about it. The Juke can be had with nearly 215hp and a helical LSD while this Sentra sits at 188hp and open diff, for example.

The B13 SE-R - there was so little, if anything, like it on the market at the time. Same with the S13. Same with the Z32 (until the pricing killed it along with the rise of the SUV). The modern implementations of those vehicles DO NOT COMPETE at the price point. Sure there are justifications for why one would buy a 370Z over a Camaro SS, or why one would buy a Sentra NISMO over a Focus ST, but the overwhelming majority of buyers in these markets wants to stretch their dollar to the extreme in fun factor that they can.

Nissan has been absent here, and they've gotten too big as a company to adequately respond to changes in the market landscape and competitors within that landscape for anything except a crossover. Look at the Titan - a fantastic offering even 5 years ago, but now that it's finally come to market, it's barely competitive when you stack it up to Ford and Chevy. In fact, I feel the XD version of the truck was an absolute hail mary to force a niche into one of the most ruthless markets in the North American automotive landscape. I feel it wouldn't otherwise garner any attention if they just showed up with the new 5.6L half ton truck. They're pasting an extended bumper-to-bumper warranty on it to put up a shred of a fight, but equipment for equipment, truck for truck, it's another also-ran from a company that's been also-running for 10+ years.

The site I work for was founded out of enthusiasts that were attracted to Nissan's bang-for-the-buck and well rounded products that offered fun, performance, and usability in a well-priced package. The overwhelming majority of Nissan's products are uninspiring, underwhelming, and paint a bleak picture for the future of volume cars that illustrates soulless, uninvolving, and uninspiring driving experiences. It preaches utility and convenience. It shows a culture of building machines as appliances rather than enhancements to life experience like they used to be.

NISMO was supposed to be the exception to all of those things. I understand a business has to make money, but at the level they're selling Altimas to rental car companies and Rogues to Star Wars fans, they can afford to have a niche performance marque that doesn't forget about the people that drive as a means of having fun. Nissan seems to think you shouldn't do that unless you have a cool $100k burning a hole in your pocket for a GT-R.

TL;DR - Nissan is boring as **** when it used to be exciting. They're like a volume Subaru - put out a sweet concept and when it hits production it turns into vanilla.

I feel you brutha. It's frustrating. I guess my expectations with the sentra were SO LOW, that when it came out. I was like, nice. They should have went straight to the 215 hp engine. They claimed more power more money, but I don't see it....

That said. Not every application needs an LSD when less than 250hp is involved. I'm dying for a new Z. All these cars are filler if it's not the Z.

I honestly think the grip Z is just a symbol of the next gen Juke and Z being built on the same modular chassis. But yes.... Nissan has been slouching it's loyalists over the past few years.

JSpec1 11-20-2016 10:40 AM

Saw it at the LA Auto Show on Friday and was dissapointed. I mean It looks nice but then i saw an Eco button on it which reminds me of my cousin's corolla which In my opinion shouldn't be in a sportier model.


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