2011 Mustang V6 Revealed
 

Good job Ford :tup:

LA Preview: 2011 Ford Mustang V6 makes 305 HP, gets 30 MPG — Autoblog

Still a Ford... :stirthepot:

The v8 gets 412hp and I think it weighs about 3500lbs.

Confirmed: 2011 Ford Mustang GT to offer 412-horsepower 5.0-liter V8 — Autoblog

I, for one, am appalled that the word M**tang is allowed on this board, except in the context, "I just :owned: a M**tang."

My opinion and I'm entitled :tup:

The current GT weighs 3500lbs, larger engine = more weight.

:worship: i'm still faster!:worship:

*sigh*

That is the most simplistic way of viewing motor construction, ever.

You know how much the 7.0L LS7 weighs over the 6.0L LS2? 10 lbs.

10 measly lbs, for over 100 more HP.

+1. Domestic hate tends to cloud out rational thought at these places. :icon18:

A 2011 GT with the track pack and a 4.10 gear swap is going to walk all over a lot of cars.

MORE DISPLACEMENT MEANS 100LBS MORE PER LITER! At LEAST! The motor is OBVIOUSLY bigger!

Hasn't anyone ever heard of stroking/boring a motor out? Using aluminum heads/block instead of iron?

The new Mustang is going to be a SIGNIFICANT player against the 370Z, mark my words. And I'm a Chevy fanboy.

Well it took until 08 or 09 to get an overhead cam as a standard in the mustang. guess they're trying to catch up a little faster finally. In all honesty it shouldn't be Z vs. Mustang GT while the V6 stang is in the 4-banger world. Don't like mustangs other than the 64-69 or the early 90s fox bodies, but it's about time Ford.

Where do you get this 100lbs/liter equation? :confused:

No doubt it will be faster than a Z in a straight line, but it's still a front-heavy (in fact heavier) design with a live rear axle and could be pwnd on a "driver's track" with no significantly long straights.

Should be king of the local dragstrip, though.

did he mean 100hp?

Swapping a KA24DE + Trans (5sp) to an LS1 + Trans (6sp) actually saved 100lbs if I remember correctly.

Just look at how much weight is lost going from a puny rotary to an LS1 lol.

And no, I meant 100lbs/liter - I was poking fun at the fact that Red370 assumes that more cubes = more weight by default, as if motor weight grows in proportion to displacement.

I wouldnt be surprised if the VQ37 weighs more than an LS1.

I love mustangs...not the drivers since they tend to think they are high and mighty (I've been on rehab since I used to be one of them). With that said Mustangs are still best bang for the $. They draw massive interest since they are cheap and mods are cheap as well. An average 370z exhaust is $1000, invest that in a GT and you'll have a real monster on your hands. With that said, Mustangs cannot, I repeat CANNOT negotiate turns. Chances are a bolt on Mustang will take a Z if they were to run on the highway on the way to the track, but at the track it's a different story. Still, Mustangs have a special lure to youngins who spend all their part time job money on mods.

I've seen Mustangs successfully negotiate a track, but most of them had heavily modified suspensions.

Mustang's still use live rear axles...inferior technology. Even with massive suspension mods it still leaves a lot to be desired. I would say the best mustang of the decade was the 2003-2004 Cobra, the blown engine was dynamite and it had a rear irs suspension. Too bad the driver is usually a dkhead.

who said rotary?

Nobody - but I was thinking of the heaviest, low-displacement motor I could think of lol. Those are pretty damn low, and heavy as hell.

I agree, the supercharged Cobra's with IRS were bad-***. A friend of mine sold his last year for a mere $18K. He used to flog that thing around the track with some heavy boost until he lifted a head. If I was a muscle car guy I would have bought it off him in a heart beat.

There is an IRS conversion available for the newer Mustangs but it is cost prohibitive. The live axle can be made serviceable at the track, but IRS takes the mid-corner bumps better.

Time to break some hearts. Red370 does not assume, Red370 knows. 4.6L V3 = 420lbs. 5.0L = 543.7lbs and a grand total of.... 123lbs gained. Unfortunately in this case, more displacement = more weight.

Chevrolet lists the following:
LS1:
Al. Block 107.1 lb.
Al. Head 20.3 lb.
Dressed with all accessories 457.6 lb.

No, the LS1 does not weigh less than the VQ37.

And you are getting this weight from...where?

Most anything, save for the displacement and a few pictures, is theoretical about the Coyote project.

Ford and Chevy forums, Google is a great thing.

Amazingly vague. Links.

And on that note, where is the stated weight of the VQ37 while you're at it? I never said the LS1 actually weighed less - I said I wouldnt be SURPRISED if it did.

The new GT should make 400+ hp and 390ish tq lol

Aaaaaaanytime now.

Anyone specific?
The engine has not been picked exactly yet, yes it is going to be a 5.0L but there are a few variants currently.

Not that I needed to post this, but thanks Dreamer - precisely my point.

Yep, having two co-workers who are Mustang addicts, they are wondering where this info is coming from, they would love to know how much this stuff is going to weight as they want to share it.

Well I think you and me both know exactly where its coming from.

http://www.nestreetscene.com/images/smilies/bsflag.gif

ugh, since you wanna cry about it.

4.6L 3V Engine weight ???? - ModularFords.com

3.8 L vs 5.0 L engine weight??? Effect on suspension??? - Super Coupe Club of America Forums

You just pretty much posted up your own fail right there lol...

The 5.0L weight thread was made...in 2004. For a 1991 5.0L.

engine hasnt evolved hardly if any since then, no fail. There have been variations with aluminum blocks, but the weight savings were negligible.

*edited* *edited again, since even they couldn't get their facts straight it seems*
Funny...

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...27-post23.html

Negligible huh? I guess 100lbs aint **** lol.

Both are 5.7L Chevy Small Blocks, with a mere 5 years separating them.

The new 5.0 is an almost completely new design, using the old specs is pretty retarded. The engine is expected to drop weight as it will be an aluminum block.

:worship:i'm still faster:worship:

This thread went without a post for weeks and it has since exploded into a flame fest.

I do have to thank forum members like Bobo and m4a1 for their factual, and useful contributions to this thread.

Ignorance tends to cause that lol.

I edited my post.:tup:

Rofl, thanks. Pointless slinging out "facts" unless you can back them up, at least to a point.