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ChrisSlicks 12-18-2009 09:16 AM
I've seen Mustangs successfully negotiate a track, but most of them had heavily modified suspensions.

NYBladeZ 12-18-2009 09:19 AM
Mustang's still use live rear axles...inferior technology. Even with massive suspension mods it still leaves a lot to be desired. I would say the best mustang of the decade was the 2003-2004 Cobra, the blown engine was dynamite and it had a rear irs suspension. Too bad the driver is usually a dkhead.

vipor 12-18-2009 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 330023)
Just look at how much weight is lost going from a puny rotary to an LS1 lol.

And no, I meant 100lbs/liter - I was poking fun at the fact that Red370 assumes that more cubes = more weight by default, as if motor weight grows in proportion to displacement.

I wouldnt be surprised if the VQ37 weighs more than an LS1.
who said rotary?

MightyBobo 12-18-2009 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by vipor (Post 330037)
who said rotary?
Nobody - but I was thinking of the heaviest, low-displacement motor I could think of lol. Those are pretty damn low, and heavy as hell.

ChrisSlicks 12-18-2009 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 330035)
Mustang's still use live rear axles...inferior technology. Even with massive suspension mods it still leaves a lot to be desired. I would say the best mustang of the decade was the 2003-2004 Cobra, the blown engine was dynamite and it had a rear irs suspension. Too bad the driver is usually a dkhead.
I agree, the supercharged Cobra's with IRS were bad-***. A friend of mine sold his last year for a mere $18K. He used to flog that thing around the track with some heavy boost until he lifted a head. If I was a muscle car guy I would have bought it off him in a heart beat.

There is an IRS conversion available for the newer Mustangs but it is cost prohibitive. The live axle can be made serviceable at the track, but IRS takes the mid-corner bumps better.

Red370 12-18-2009 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 330023)
Just look at how much weight is lost going from a puny rotary to an LS1 lol.

And no, I meant 100lbs/liter - I was poking fun at the fact that Red370 assumes that more cubes = more weight by default, as if motor weight grows in proportion to displacement.

I wouldnt be surprised if the VQ37 weighs more than an LS1.
Time to break some hearts. Red370 does not assume, Red370 knows. 4.6L V3 = 420lbs. 5.0L = 543.7lbs and a grand total of.... 123lbs gained. Unfortunately in this case, more displacement = more weight.

Chevrolet lists the following:
LS1:
Al. Block 107.1 lb.
Al. Head 20.3 lb.
Dressed with all accessories 457.6 lb.

No, the LS1 does not weigh less than the VQ37.

MightyBobo 12-18-2009 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 330443)
Time to break some hearts. Red370 does not assume, Red370 knows. 4.6L V3 = 420lbs. 5.0L = 543.7lbs and a grand total of.... 123lbs gained. Unfortunately in this case, more displacement = more weight.
And you are getting this weight from...where?

Most anything, save for the displacement and a few pictures, is theoretical about the Coyote project.

Red370 12-18-2009 12:53 PM
Ford and Chevy forums, Google is a great thing.

MightyBobo 12-18-2009 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 330464)
Ford and Chevy forums, Google is a great thing.
Amazingly vague. Links.

And on that note, where is the stated weight of the VQ37 while you're at it? I never said the LS1 actually weighed less - I said I wouldnt be SURPRISED if it did.

shabarivas 12-18-2009 01:04 PM
The new GT should make 400+ hp and 390ish tq lol

MightyBobo 12-18-2009 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 330467)
Amazingly vague. Links.

And on that note, where is the stated weight of the VQ37 while you're at it? I never said the LS1 actually weighed less - I said I wouldn't be SURPRISED if it did.
Aaaaaaanytime now.

theDreamer 12-18-2009 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 330464)
Ford and Chevy forums, Google is a great thing.
Anyone specific?
The engine has not been picked exactly yet, yes it is going to be a 5.0L but there are a few variants currently.

MightyBobo 12-18-2009 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 330602)
Anyone specific?
The engine has not been picked exactly yet, yes it is going to be a 5.0L but there are a few variants currently.
Not that I needed to post this, but thanks Dreamer - precisely my point.

theDreamer 12-18-2009 02:09 PM
Yep, having two co-workers who are Mustang addicts, they are wondering where this info is coming from, they would love to know how much this stuff is going to weight as they want to share it.

MightyBobo 12-18-2009 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 330609)
Yep, having two co-workers who are Mustang addicts, they are wondering where this info is coming from, they would love to know how much this stuff is going to weight as they want to share it.
Well I think you and me both know exactly where its coming from.

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