2017 Nissan Sentra SR... TURBO/MANUAL

JARblue · 09-30-2016, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I'm not trying to. I'm just expressing a reality of irrationality in this world that now you have stood up for.

Now you're putting words in my mouth. I never stood up for that way of thinking. I simply acknowledged that I am guilty of it in when it comes to Hyundai.

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

You can have any opinion you like. In reality idgaf either way. You're debating the wrong forum member, cuz I'll only debate facts. You're free to block yourself from receiving as many opposing opinions as you like.

My ignore list has a population of zero

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I was just making a general statement based off a n observed one sided rationale you freely admitted to.

Right, but the problem is most people think they are right when they think that way and refuse to try to see it from another perspective. Whereas I understand the problems that can stem from that kind of bias. Now, seeing as my decision to like or dislike Hyundai harms no one either way, I'm not worried about having an irrational opinion. But you can't do that when you're making important decisions that affect other people, especially when it comes to their livelihoods. Yet many people still allow irrational thoughts and emotions to cloud their judgement even when cold hard facts are slapping them in the face

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-01-2016, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Now you're putting words in my mouth. I never stood up for that way of thinking. I simply acknowledged that I am guilty of it in when it comes to Hyundai.

My ignore list has a population of zero

Right, but the problem is most people think they are right when they think that way and refuse to try to see it from another perspective. Whereas I understand the problems that can stem from that kind of bias. Now, seeing as my decision to like or dislike Hyundai harms no one either way, I'm not worried about having an irrational opinion. But you can't do that when you're making important decisions that affect other people, especially when it comes to their livelihoods. Yet many people still allow irrational thoughts and emotions to cloud their judgement even when cold hard facts are slapping them in the face

Lol, I wasn't really talking in the extreme of ignore lists. I think I have 4. Most of the old, so-called "370z we love mustangs more than Z's clique are on it.". You can only hear so many my mustang is better than my old Z because" stories for so long. Then being self righteous when you're challenged.

But yeah.... I completely agree with the last part of your post. And this is a car forum, so we should be able to have personal opinions without taking it personal, until obviously, some people will anyway. Lol.

roplusbee · 09-30-2016, 11:40 AM

When they stopped producing the B15 SE-R Spec V, the Sentra died for me. It looks like the pendulum is swinging back around. NISSAN usually release their best products at the end / beginning of a decade.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-30-2016, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by roplusbee

When they stopped producing the B15 SE-R Spec V, the Sentra died for me. It looks like the pendulum is swinging back around. NISSAN usually release their best products at the end / beginning of a decade.

NISMO IX · 09-30-2016, 12:23 PM

I just wanted to add to an earlier comment I made about owning an 06 Spec-V and giving the current conversation here. When I owned my Sentra, it was in a weird time in my life before my currently wonderful career in the aerospace industry, I actually worked pizza delivery 48 hours/6 days a week with the Sentra. In three years time I racked up 88,000 miles on it only needing tires, brakes, and fluids. After five years I traded it in and needed a rear wheel bearing at 96,000 miles. THAT was stop and go traffic, non-stop, for three years. It held up nicely, I wasn't always gentle either because it was a Spec-V. This is why I stuck with the brand, if I had Merican, it would not have held up. The Kia and Hyundai were garbage in the late 1990's to mid 2000's but are actually built a lot more durable now. Just my 2 cents.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-30-2016, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX

I just wanted to add to an earlier comment I made about owning an 06 Spec-V and giving the current conversation here. When I owned my Sentra, it was in a weird time in my life before my currently wonderful career in the aerospace industry, I actually worked pizza delivery 48 hours/6 days a week with the Sentra. In three years time I racked up 88,000 miles on it only needing tires, brakes, and fluids. After five years I traded it in and needed a rear wheel bearing at 96,000 miles. THAT was stop and go traffic, non-stop, for three years. It held up nicely, I wasn't always gentle either because it was a Spec-V. This is why I stuck with the brand, if I had Merican, it would not have held up. The Kia and Hyundai were garbage in the late 1990's to mid 2000's but are actually built a lot more durable now. Just my 2 cents.

From 98 on Hyundai was model dependent. Elantras and Sonatas, Santa Fe's were doing really well already. The rest were hit or miss. But you're about right on Hyundai

3.7 ZPA · 10-02-2016, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX

I just wanted to add to an earlier comment I made about owning an 06 Spec-V and giving the current conversation here. When I owned my Sentra, it was in a weird time in my life before my currently wonderful career in the aerospace industry, I actually worked pizza delivery 48 hours/6 days a week with the Sentra. In three years time I racked up 88,000 miles on it only needing tires, brakes, and fluids. After five years I traded it in and needed a rear wheel bearing at 96,000 miles. THAT was stop and go traffic, non-stop, for three years. It held up nicely, I wasn't always gentle either because it was a Spec-V. This is why I stuck with the brand, if I had Merican, it would not have held up. The Kia and Hyundai were garbage in the late 1990's to mid 2000's but are actually built a lot more durable now. Just my 2 cents.

Mine was practically falling apart by the time I traded it in on my Si. It held up well for the first 6 years, but the last two were not kind to it.

kenchan · 10-03-2016, 11:08 PM

CVT isn't necessarily bad on turbo cars. Continuous turbo pressure. I wonder how much power it can handle though.

NISMO IX · 10-03-2016, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

CVT isn't necessarily bad on turbo cars. Continuous turbo pressure. I wonder how much power it can handle though.

There was a guy on Juke forums that had 200 All Wheel Horsepower and was not slipping. Same dude said from his experience of what he saw the engine would give before the cvt

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-04-2016, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX

There was a guy on Juke forums that had 200 All Wheel Horsepower and was not slipping. Same dude said from his experience of what he saw the engine would give before the cvt

I would think the cvt would be able to handle at least 350HP if its the same as the altima n maxima?
If his engine was giving out, he possibly had to have done something wrong in the mod process with only 200awhp on it.?.

I haven't followed cvt transmissions since my 08 altima 3.5se which wasn't bad.... but the Juke is on top with that.

NISMO IX · 10-04-2016, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I would think the cvt would be able to handle at least 350HP if its the same as the altima n maxima?
If his engine was giving out, he possibly had to have done something wrong in the mod process with only 200awhp on it.?.

I haven't followed cvt transmissions since my 08 altima 3.5se which wasn't bad.... but the Juke is on top with that.

Was not his engine, was one he saw on a dyno being retuned. They apparently turned the boost to 22lbs and BANG clatter clatter.... Oops! Could have been a variety of issues that caused it.

kenchan · 10-04-2016, 05:25 AM

Are juke nismo's rare in ur area? My local dealers had a bunch of dem on sale couldn't sell dem until dey were going for like 21k or something dirt cheap. For awd I'd go for subaru and do it right the first time. Is 200whp a big deal?

kenchan · 10-04-2016, 06:32 AM

those altima cvt's are notorious for failures, no?

going back to topic though, this segment is really for those dat can only afford one car. dat means it needs to be able to do daily tasks well including carrying family and cargo. not sure why juke was even mentioned cause dey suck as a family car, yet not fast enough to call it a performance anything either (juke-r different story). it stuck itself into its own little niche.

its like they came in 1st place cause it was da only participant in da race.. da only commitment i see in the juke is der odd-ball looks.

NISMO IX · 10-04-2016, 11:28 AM

Kenchan, Nissan has had cvts for over ten years now and supplied by Jetco which is partially controlled by Nissan through shares. They did indeed used to be crap but are being perfected over time. Most people only comment when things go wrong which is why most of what you hear online is garbage.

And that "niche", is why we now have a variety of copycats made by Jeep, Fiat, Buick... Thank you Nissan for another industry first.

And as for rarity, I see a few here and there, but mostly basic Jukes on a daily basis. The reason most people do not go with the RS is because most people can't stand the hard Recaro Seats.

Sometime people do not want something that other people already have an over abundance of, which is why i bought a Z instead of the 10 million mustangs already on the road, plus I wanted a Nissan. If I wanted to follow the majority to fit in, I would have a Rustang and Subie in my driveway. What I have is different. Paying a bit more for it is fine by me.

To get back on topic, the above last comment is another reason why a sporty Sentra will sell too, some people want something different.

kenchan · 10-04-2016, 02:56 PM

I seriously doubt other manufacturers copied the juke..

09-30-2016, 11:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 23	When they stopped producing the B15 SE-R Spec V, the Sentra died for me. It looks like the pendulum is swinging back around. NISSAN usually release their best products at the end / beginning of a decade. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

09-30-2016, 12:23 PM	#5 (permalink)
NISMO IX Track Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southern Maine Age: 47 Posts: 742 Drives: 2014 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 584	I just wanted to add to an earlier comment I made about owning an 06 Spec-V and giving the current conversation here. When I owned my Sentra, it was in a weird time in my life before my currently wonderful career in the aerospace industry, I actually worked pizza delivery 48 hours/6 days a week with the Sentra. In three years time I racked up 88,000 miles on it only needing tires, brakes, and fluids. After five years I traded it in and needed a rear wheel bearing at 96,000 miles. THAT was stop and go traffic, non-stop, for three years. It held up nicely, I wasn't always gentle either because it was a Spec-V. This is why I stuck with the brand, if I had Merican, it would not have held up. The Kia and Hyundai were garbage in the late 1990's to mid 2000's but are actually built a lot more durable now. Just my 2 cents. UNKNOWN_370 and RicerX like this. __________________ 2017 Ford Focus RS Nitrous Blue "KB43VER" 2014 370z Mag Blk 6M "KOKURYU" (Black Dragon)

10-03-2016, 11:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	CVT isn't necessarily bad on turbo cars. Continuous turbo pressure. I wonder how much power it can handle though. UNKNOWN_370 likes this.

10-04-2016, 11:28 AM	#14 (permalink)
NISMO IX Track Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southern Maine Age: 47 Posts: 742 Drives: 2014 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 584	Kenchan, Nissan has had cvts for over ten years now and supplied by Jetco which is partially controlled by Nissan through shares. They did indeed used to be crap but are being perfected over time. Most people only comment when things go wrong which is why most of what you hear online is garbage. And that "niche", is why we now have a variety of copycats made by Jeep, Fiat, Buick... Thank you Nissan for another industry first. And as for rarity, I see a few here and there, but mostly basic Jukes on a daily basis. The reason most people do not go with the RS is because most people can't stand the hard Recaro Seats. Sometime people do not want something that other people already have an over abundance of, which is why i bought a Z instead of the 10 million mustangs already on the road, plus I wanted a Nissan. If I wanted to follow the majority to fit in, I would have a Rustang and Subie in my driveway. What I have is different. Paying a bit more for it is fine by me. To get back on topic, the above last comment is another reason why a sporty Sentra will sell too, some people want something different. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ 2017 Ford Focus RS Nitrous Blue "KB43VER" 2014 370z Mag Blk 6M "KOKURYU" (Black Dragon) Last edited by NISMO IX; 10-04-2016 at 11:37 AM.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Are juke nismo's rare in ur area? My local dealers had a bunch of dem on sale couldn't sell dem until dey were going for like 21k or something dirt cheap. For awd I'd go for subaru and do it right the first time. Is 200whp a big deal?

10-04-2016, 06:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	those altima cvt's are notorious for failures, no? going back to topic though, this segment is really for those dat can only afford one car. dat means it needs to be able to do daily tasks well including carrying family and cargo. not sure why juke was even mentioned cause dey suck as a family car, yet not fast enough to call it a performance anything either (juke-r different story). it stuck itself into its own little niche. its like they came in 1st place cause it was da only participant in da race.. da only commitment i see in the juke is der odd-ball looks.

10-04-2016, 02:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	I seriously doubt other manufacturers copied the juke..